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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:04 am
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This topic was splitted from here.
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Here's the pics. Im not too confidence how much can this pics tell. Anyway pls shoot.....

Start off with pics before feeding MP.


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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:06 am
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more before pics...........


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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:08 am
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after feeding MP for abt 3 weeks......


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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:15 am
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QUOTE(YLD @ Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:08 am)
after feeding MP for abt 3 weeks......
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The hood is covering the eyes already....
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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:19 am
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more after effect.....


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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:23 am
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last one.......

the pics only some some headgrowth, the size(refer to width and depth, not length) improvement is not indicated on the pics.

Im not comfortable with the pics due to the inconsistent shooting angles.


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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:35 am
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QUOTE(YLD @ Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:23 am)
last one.......

the pics only some some headgrowth, the size(refer to width and depth, not length) improvement is not indicated on the pics.

Im not comfortable with the pics due to the inconsistent shooting angles.
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in your opinions, what are the improvements ?

How long has this fish exposed to market prawn feed ?

HB, think this thread split away. Can keep a better records in a separate thread. very interesting.
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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:54 am
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QUOTE(The Matrix @ Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:35 am)
in your opinions, what are the improvements ?

How long has this fish exposed to market prawn feed ?

HB, think this thread split away. Can keep a better records in a separate thread. very interesting.
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Repeating some history........

When i first bought this fish, its main diet is lionhead pellet and occassional frozen blood worm. After abt 6weeks no significant/almost zero growth in size or any improvement in headgrowth. There is even this period where i noticed that one of its eyes is starting to bulge out of the headgrowth, some worry abt stunt growth.

Upon advice from a friend, start to introduce MP. This fellow really like MP and seem to digest better. So keep feed MP for abt 3 weeks. Then see the clear improvement in size (bulk up) and slightly more headgrowth, especially round the eye.

After QT, fish has been staying in 4ft tank with at least 50 litres water per fish.
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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 3:01 am
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What effects does MP has on the ranchu's body? Is it more bulky? And how about the colour? I asked because the previous owner of one of my fishes feed 90% MP and 10% pellets. The ranchus that he has are bulky and slender. Not those fat fat round round type. None of them have sagging tummies. Which is really cool.

But the headgrowth of the fishes are not so majestic though. And the colour seems to be fading...
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I've combined two pics and made a easier to compare before and after pic.

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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 7:52 am
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QUOTE(desireless @ Tue, 07 Sep 2004 3:01 am)
What effects does MP has on the ranchu's body? Is it more bulky? And how about the colour? I asked because the previous owner of one of my fishes feed 90% MP and 10% pellets. The ranchus that he has are bulky and slender. Not those fat fat round round type. None of them have sagging tummies. Which is really cool.

But the headgrowth of the fishes are not so majestic though. And the colour seems to be fading...
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yes its more bulky. looking at the curve of the fish i dun think it can grow much in length, and from what i observed the width/thickness of the fish and its belly depth has bulk up.

also pls correct me if im wrong, i think fishy with smooth curve has a better chance of have a slender and yet bulky/full body, as for one with a "problemtic" curve would have a more rounded body. Y? if the back growth is restricted and "good" food is fed where can this fish growth?....................

colour has been more or less like this since day one, of course it is not as bright as shown is pic. so far this fellow not exposed to green water or any colour enhancer food.

of course i dun say this fellow has very good headgrowth, at least im quite happy with it. if you look closely you do find improvement in headgrowth , particularly around the eyes.

btw does a majestic headgrowth means eyes been cover up?

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can notice some colour improvemnet, better headgrowth and slight bulk.....
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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:48 am
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QUOTE(YLD @ Tue, 07 Sep 2004 7:52 am)
yes its more bulky. looking at the curve of the fish i dun think it can grow much in length, and from what i observed the width/thickness of the fish and its belly depth has bulk up.
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your results indicated that 6 weeks on market prawn feeding will

- improve the width/thickness of the fish
- bulk up the belly depth
- no improvement in color
- improve in wen growth

Anything else changed or unchange ? photo hard to see ...

how about the size ? did it grow a tiny bit ?

hmmm ... since u got a 4ft tank, and min 50L per fish, u got another 2-4 fish more in your tank. Any improvement in these few ? Or similar type of observation ?
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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 1:04 pm
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This thread is very very interesting and informative, especially for me, since i have plenty of mp.
From the pic, i can conclude for sure that there is:
-Headgrowth
-body bulkier.
i cant conclude on the color though, because it depends on the lights when the pic took place as well.

YLD, how do u feed the mp? chopped to pieces? or just peeled them and throw them into the water and let the fish nibble them?
how about the poos? what color and is it chunky?
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post Tue, 07 Sep 2004 2:01 pm
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I don't think that it can be concluded from the above experiment that MP can do so many things so well.
As Ranchus grow, with reasonable rearing skill, it would be natural for growth in the head, body and colour intensity.
It may be that MP is really good but it'll take a more controlled studies to verify...
Maybe someone might want to try selecting several ranchus from the same cohort and rear them under different water parameters and food types to do a comparitive study?
Then, once and for all, we can see whether Hikari, JRL, Chroma, BW, MP etc are actually any different or are they all the same in terms of quality but are just using price/packing/reputation to hood wink all of us!
So, HB, want to help the rest of us?? wink.gif
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