Aquarama International Fish Competition, 2005, Pre-Event Info |
Aquarama International Fish Competition, 2005, Pre-Event Info |
white horse T1 |
Mon, 30 May 2005 1:40 pm
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QUOTE(yamato38gunkei @ Sun, 29 May 2005 7:59 pm) I know that many will not be happy with the following remark : "if hobbyists can not win any awards at big Shows, it is because they do not try hard enough ! Do not complain, ACT !!!!! Regards, Geert Coppens i think it is more to do with statistics than skill. - FFS has a "pool" of fishes to select the BEST one to participate. - Hobbyist must not only have (1) the eye, (2) skill but also (3) the $$ to groom that (4) one rare piece that happen to comeby the little Spore island by opportunity. 4 factors to tackle. (minus breeder hobbyist of course) - also going by analogy, how many times we see independent individual getting more votes than a candidate from political parties. the ratio is just abt ok. Trying is one thing but luck and who u know is equally impt |
goldrush |
Mon, 30 May 2005 4:26 pm
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Try to see it thro the fish's eyes
Try to feel it thro the fish's senses And discover the true meaning of the whole competition. Far too often in satisfying human needs and desire,we succumb to animal expliotation that lead to unnecessary sufferings of our fellow fishes that once gave us so much pride and honour.The least we could do is to provide them with adequate and ample facilities for them to thrive and show their best in such unfamiliar environment. goldrush |
The Matrix |
Mon, 30 May 2005 8:21 pm
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The Matrix Member No.: 19 Group: Associate Posts: 2,916 Topics Started: 20 Joined: 25-Nov-03 Last seen online: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 5:22 pm User's local time: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:40 am Green Water: Yes Country: Singapore |
QUOTE(goldrush @ Mon, 30 May 2005 4:26 pm) Try to see it thro the fish's eyes Try to feel it thro the fish's senses And discover the true meaning of the whole competition. Far too often in satisfying human needs and desire,we succumb to animal expliotation that lead to unnecessary sufferings of our fellow fishes that once gave us so much pride and honour.The least we could do is to provide them with adequate and ample facilities for them to thrive and show their best in such unfamiliar environment. goldrush one can provide everything u could think of, following every aspect of the requirement, really, every thing in this forum of a new tank setup for a single fish .... except one important thing which many overlook ... did anyone look deep enough at the filter ? ponder over it ... Sponsor want their branding, would they allow another ? Like the Blues worn their airway, would they travel on another ? There are limitations. |
yuanbao |
Tue, 31 May 2005 5:56 pm
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My black/white ryukin did not win a thing and so did my purple gowntail ryukin.....thank you so much to the organisers and the judges!
Anyone interested in the two fish? I want to lelong them now! |
CyberET |
Tue, 31 May 2005 5:59 pm
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QUOTE(yuanbao @ Tue, 31 May 2005 5:56 pm) My black/white ryukin did not win a thing and so did my purple gowntail ryukin.....thank you so much to the organisers and the judges! Anyone interested in the two fish? I want to lelong them now! post picture lor.. u should have written on the tank your contact for sale |
CP |
Tue, 31 May 2005 6:09 pm
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QUOTE(yuanbao @ Tue, 31 May 2005 5:56 pm) My black/white ryukin did not win a thing and so did my purple gowntail ryukin.....thank you so much to the organisers and the judges! I am split 50 / 50 on whether this is a sarcastic statement or just a poor phrasing of the English language in which the writer has no intention to malign.............. But I was told by the guy from Fengshui fish that the 1st and 2nd price ryukin belonged to you. :unsureHow many prizes did you want to win kekekeke.... The beautiful RM$11k Tunghoi Calico ranchu also belonged to you, I was told. This post has been edited by cpiw2002: Tue, 31 May 2005 6:27 pm |
The Matrix |
Tue, 31 May 2005 6:13 pm
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The Matrix Member No.: 19 Group: Associate Posts: 2,916 Topics Started: 20 Joined: 25-Nov-03 Last seen online: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 5:22 pm User's local time: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:40 am Green Water: Yes Country: Singapore |
QUOTE(yuanbao @ Tue, 31 May 2005 5:56 pm) My black/white ryukin did not win a thing and so did my purple gowntail ryukin.....thank you so much to the organisers and the judges! Anyone interested in the two fish? I want to lelong them now! as usual .... $120 for the black white ? sorry cannot afford if really too high. that's my limit. |
yuanbao |
Tue, 31 May 2005 7:16 pm
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QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Tue, 31 May 2005 6:09 pm) I am split 50 / 50 on whether this is a sarcastic statement or just a poor phrasing of the English language in which the writer has no intention to malign.............. But I was told by the guy from Fengshui fish that the 1st and 2nd price ryukin belonged to you. :unsureHow many prizes did you want to win kekekeke.... The beautiful RM$11k Tunghoi Calico ranchu also belonged to you, I was told. Walau dont be like that.....the fish is still in sg. any serious takers can have them for SGD8k for the b/w fish and the other fish SGD1.5K Fengshuifish will take them back from sg soon....so if you guys are serious you can call them 012-3261335. They will handle it for me. The grand champ not mine lah. Its Mr.Kew la. Whose ranchu? You mean the red cap? Thats not my fish.....its Mr.Kew's fish. I dont think he wants to sell though. |
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Tue, 31 May 2005 8:04 pm
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Seacucumber ... u quote too low liao ...
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Tue, 31 May 2005 8:08 pm
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Tue, 31 May 2005 9:40 pm
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Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:09 am
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If you have noticed I don't even have one on........................
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Thu, 02 Jun 2005 8:01 pm
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So matrix may I know what is their exact criteria for judging during the Aquarama
Happen to chance upon the chinese version of judging.Have a look here A max of 200 points maybe awarded base on the underlined criterias http://www.chinagoldfish.com/english/principlegrade.htm We need to know for future reference as a guide to see whether our fish are up to it before embarassing ourselves leh....... goldrush |
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Thu, 02 Jun 2005 9:14 pm
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Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:08 am
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QUOTE(goldrush @ Thu, 02 Jun 2005 8:01 pm) So matrix may I know what is their exact criteria for judging during the Aquarama Happen to chance upon the chinese version of judging.Have a look here A max of 200 points maybe awarded base on the underlined criterias http://www.chinagoldfish.com/english/principlegrade.htm We need to know for future reference as a guide to see whether our fish are up to it before embarassing ourselves leh....... goldrush sorry, i also dunno. there are 3 types for what i know. 1. Pairing - Aquarama already not using it, but some events might still using. Pairing is the most complex and highest difficulties. very high scoring for matching pair. 2. Feature focus - commonly used. Simple point system like what u got from the website. 3. Relative focus - this one is of high complexity. It's something like statistic. Head feature relative to body, body relative to finnage, finage to head, balance to color, color to uniqueness, uniqueness to balance. The mathematical calculation is extreme complex. And these are used by recognised judges to find the weightage for (2). Point system can be pretty simple but how many points to give is not going to be easy. Eg : how many points to give for long tail varieties vs the short tail varieties. All these are relative to the show standard. Then how many points to give for Sakura vs a full red and relative to a red/white. That's why u see in the website, they got to separate the varieties. what's the criteria for red, red/white, red/black, black/white, black/brown, brown/blue, blue, black. Tough ? http://www.chinagoldfish.com/english/scope.htm What's the criteria for a dragon eyes, what is a good eyes, what is not ? Should a dragon eyes looks like a ryukin or a wen yu ? |
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