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post Tue, 24 Jan 2006 6:12 pm
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The 2nd National Ranchu Competition 2006 organising committee would like our members' feedbacks on this competition.

Please tell us how you feel about this this competition and how the next one can can be better organised.
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post Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:11 pm
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can bench in the night before or not ... really cannot wake up ahhhh ... blush.gif

maybe for the tvr, then in the morning ...
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post Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:12 pm
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ok let me initiate the post mortem for this year event from my personal point of view.First let me congratulate all VRC members for a job well done and took pains in bringing in world renowned judges for the event.Like what I had highlighted in my retrospective view last year some of these have not been met.One salient drawback was the amount of public attendance which one word summarised the atmosphere.....PATHETIC.I think the public turn out has been a disappointment.I think the mistake was to left out the advertisement of the event in our local papers on the previous day and the day itself .The last reminder was sometime back and perhaps the general public and many of us need constant reminding.
Another missing was the question and answer exchange which members or public are allowed to ask foreign dignitaries their view ,cultivation and improvement needed for their keeping.Perhaps the judges should give a public feed back on why a particular fish was chosen as champion,its strength,merits and disposition so we can learn from the criterias required,points awarded and features to look out for.Future participants will benefit from the judges criterias as the evolution of the standards of appreciation has to be kept in tandem if not they maybe make to believe what they keep or show are of show standards!
I am not too sure of benching in problem as I was among the earliest so no Sunday morning crowd but the bench out was not very smooth flowing ,poorly cordinated and needs more attention.Many fishes were bagged but not oxygenated immediately but left in their tanks waiting to be distributed according to queue numbers.
This year the trophies were not very impressive perhaps of budget constraint but the finishing left much to be desired.Another award can be in the form of certificate for their respective class with the judges certification that a certain fish has been conferred the title of ........or attain and met the criteria of satisfaction and been awarded the position of.........

The above are some of my observations and recommendation and I leave it for the VRC committee to look into them for further discussion.



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Everything sum up by Goldrush liao. biggrin.gif good.gif
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I felt that some SVRs were too big for the Cat A category.
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post Wed, 25 Jan 2006 2:31 am
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I think we all should praise the members of Vanda Ranchu Club for their organisation of the Second National Ranchu Competition 2006 ! I think they were GREAT !

OK, maybe it was not perfect. Maybe some things should be reviewed. But, we must not forget that Vanda Ranchu Club is very young club with no money and limited manpower.

I say you must have a lot of guts for a young club to organise a national show with judges from 4 different countries. Not many will have done this before.

No complaints from the judges. We were treated like kings.

I experienced the members of Vanda Ranchu Club as very devoted and able to do better and better year after year.

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post Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:30 am
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To me, with the limited ppl and resources, they have done a tremendous job!:good_very good_very.gif
Thumbs up to the few ladies who work all day from benching in to bench out. salute.gif salute.gif salute.gif
As for Mr Desmond Lee, what I only want to tell him now is a big THANK YOU! When he told me, all this took him many sleepless night, I cud actually felt his pain! yes.gif
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QUOTE(top_view_ranchu @ Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:30 am)
To me, with the limited ppl and resources, they have done a tremendous job!:good_very  good_very.gif
Thumbs up to the few ladies who work all day from benching in to bench out. salute.gif  salute.gif  salute.gif
As for Mr Desmond Lee, what I only want to tell him now is a big THANK YOU! When he told me, all this took him many sleepless night, I cud actually felt his pain! yes.gif
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Agree with Bro TVR here. Would like to congratulate VRC members for a job well done. good.gif good.gif good.gif

It's definitely not easy to organise such an event and a lot of planning and co-ordination goes into organising it.

Special thanks again to the members for sacrificing their precious time and effort just to promote this hobby.

Once again, thanks VRC and the judges for making this event a memorable one
and looking forward to the next one.

Rgds
YK Song

p.s. David, seems like you pay more attention to the VRC lady members hor? nananana.gif biggrin.gif
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post Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:08 pm
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dear Goldrush,

Thanks for your honest feedback.

We will definately review the your points during on debrief meeting to try our very best to improve.
However, we are really working with many constrait and difficulties. Therefore VRC sincerely seek for kind understanding, co-operation and appreciation.

Thanks again,
Desmond Lee




QUOTE(goldrush @ Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:12 pm)
ok let me initiate the post mortem for this year event from my personal point of view.First let me congratulate all VRC members for a job well done and took pains in bringing  in world renowned judges for the event.Like what I had highlighted in my  retrospective view last year some of these have not been met.One salient drawback was the amount of public attendance which one word summarised the atmosphere.....PATHETIC.I think the public turn out has been a disappointment.I think the mistake was to left out the advertisement of the event in our local papers on the previous day and the day itself .The last reminder was sometime back and perhaps the general public and many of us need constant reminding.
Another missing was the question and answer exchange which members or public are allowed to ask foreign dignitaries their view ,cultivation and improvement needed for their keeping.Perhaps the judges should give a public feed back  on why a particular fish was chosen as champion,its strength,merits and disposition so we can learn from the  criterias required,points awarded and features to look out for.Future participants will benefit from the judges criterias as the evolution of the standards of appreciation has to be kept in tandem if not they maybe make to believe what they keep or show are of show standards!
I am not too sure of benching in problem as I was among the earliest so no Sunday morning crowd but the bench out was not very smooth flowing ,poorly cordinated and needs more attention.Many fishes were bagged but not oxygenated immediately but left in their tanks waiting to be distributed according to queue numbers.
This year the trophies were not very impressive perhaps of budget constraint but the finishing left much to be desired.Another award can be in the form of certificate for their respective class with the judges certification that a certain fish has been conferred the title of ........or attain and met the criteria of satisfaction and been awarded the position of.........

The above are some of my observations and recommendation and I leave it for the VRC committee to look into them for further discussion.
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dear Geert,

Thanks for your kind feedback and understanding.

We will try our very best to improve the quality of the show.....gradually.
VRC members have enjoyed very much with your accompany. It was truly a great honor that our members to have the golden opportunity to chat with you in several meetings. And I am very glad that you have enjoyed your stay in Singapore.

Thanks for everything. smile.gif

Best Regards
Desmond Lee
QUOTE(yamato38gunkei @ Wed, 25 Jan 2006 2:31 am)
I think we all should praise the members of Vanda Ranchu Club for their organisation of the Second National Ranchu Competition 2006 !  I think they were GREAT !

OK, maybe it was not perfect.  Maybe some things should be reviewed.  But, we must not forget that Vanda Ranchu Club is very young club with no money and limited manpower.

I say you must have a lot of guts for a young club to organise a national show with judges from 4 different countries.  Not many will have done this before.

No complaints from the judges.  We were treated like kings.

I experienced the members of Vanda Ranchu Club as very devoted and able to do better and better year after year. 

Regards,
Geert Coppens
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hi David and YK Song,

Thanks for your kind appreciation and understanding.

It was very true that my team have had tired days and sleepless nights (before/during/after) the shows. Although with so much issues, we felt that it was meaningful and worth doing it. I am very happy that the quality of the participating fish have improved.

I would also like to thank you for your participation in this show.
And again, I also like to congrate David for his own winning bred.

Best Regards,
Desmond Lee


QUOTE(top_view_ranchu @ Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:30 am)
To me, with the limited ppl and resources, they have done a tremendous job!:good_very  good_very.gif
Thumbs up to the few ladies who work all day from benching in to bench out. salute.gif  salute.gif  salute.gif
As for Mr Desmond Lee, what I only want to tell him now is a big THANK YOU! When he told me, all this took him many sleepless night, I cud actually felt his pain! yes.gif
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