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HappyBuddha
post Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:42 am
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It's happening tomorrow (29/11) and Sunday.

Like... nobody is goin' hor?

How come har?
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post Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:46 am
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QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Fri 28 Nov 2003 09:42 AM)
It's happening tomorrow (29/11) and Sunday.

Like... nobody is goin' hor?

How come har?

hehe.. all shy to say? scared kena stalk tongue.gif
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post Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:57 am
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Oh, iz it? Kekeke.

I thot maybe it's becoz we have no idea what they will be talking about. I ain't goin if they just want to introduce different kinds of goldfish to me, for instance.

But if got free beer, I'm there! beer1.gif1
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post Fri, 28 Nov 2003 9:59 am
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QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Fri 28 Nov 2003 09:57 AM)
Oh, iz it? Kekeke.

I thot maybe it's becoz we have no idea what they will be talking about.  I ain't goin if they just want to introduce different kinds of goldfish to me, for instance.

But if got free beer, I'm there! beer1.gif1

hehe, go la, then u bug ron for kashino babies next year shiok.gif
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post Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:16 am
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GnG give me 2 free tickets happydance.gif
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post Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:27 am
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QUOTE(mountain @ Fri 28 Nov 2003 11:16 AM)
GnG give me 2 free tickets  happydance.gif

hehe, cool, how r your two fishy doing? smile.gif
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post Fri, 28 Nov 2003 1:18 pm
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i going on sunday! who's going as well?
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post Sat, 29 Nov 2003 1:08 am
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Me also got two free tickets from GNG this evening when I collect my fishes. But, most likely cannot go leh, work commitment. cry.gif

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post Sat, 29 Nov 2003 9:14 am
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I know for sure ET can't go... coz he's in KL. (I hope he can find his way to that Subang Aquarium for Tung Hou's fish.)

No free beer I no go.

Who taking picture har? biggrin.gif

Can post a written transcript or not? beg2.gif
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post Sun, 30 Nov 2003 5:36 pm
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some misc info from sunday's talk

green water:

- protein is around 60%! the vermilion guy alex (the ngee ann poly student on the cna show) did the analysis. who needs chroma when we have free green water biggrin.gif

- regular change of green water is also to prevent kidney failure to to excessively high protein as it gets even greener. got this from another vermilion member.

- normal FL tubes can't reduce ammonia to zero. MH can.

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QUOTE(hun citizen @ Sun 30 Nov 2003 18:32 PM)
Point 2 something which I have never heard of..... That High protein food can caused kidney failure.  Now I start to ponder whether feeding too much Chroma is a bad thing or not.

it was something new to me as well, but it makes sense. too much protein will probably overload the kidney. They didn't say this during the talk, but I talk to one of them and he mentioned that the protein level could go up toe 70+% in the green water during intense green. He also mentioned that they have "apparently" suffered losses from this when I asked.

He did mentioned that the minimum once a week water change is quite safe.

Lastly, they termed the correct colour of green water as "jade green" (no more sugarcan green, pea soup green etc) . dun ask me how it looks like coz i am colour blind rolleyes.gif
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:07 am
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too much algae is bad as it produce too much dissolved O2 which the fish blood system will be unable to discharge in time - causing O2 Burn. This is only the secondary effect.

other than that, excessive or intense green cause poor water to certain extend especially for home green water type which is likely to be smaller in vol compare to those china farm large ponds.

as for excessive protein, not every fish can take in so much protein. It will be up to individual hobbyists to find which is level of energy, growth is best for his own fish during the growth period, grooming period and sustaining period. Figure that out !

In fact, as protein break down, it cause ammonia surge when the fish excret waste product. Negative effects on excessive protein is not new to this biological advance world. It's a growth food if well selected and balanced. If used incorrectly, it's will become a negative growth factor that you will not be able to solve so easily.
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:54 am
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QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Sat 29 Nov 2003 09:14 AM)
I know for sure ET can't go... coz he's in KL.  (I hope he can find his way to that Subang Aquarium for Tung Hou's fish.)

No free beer I no go.

Who taking picture har?  biggrin.gif

Can post a written transcript or not? beg2.gif

they don't bring in from Tung Hoi anymore sad.gif from Fu Zhou now instead
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QUOTE(demekin @ Mon 01 Dec 2003 00:07 AM)
too much algae is bad as it produce too much dissolved O2 which the fish blood system will be unable to discharge in time - causing O2 Burn. This is only the secondary effect.

other than that, excessive or intense green cause poor water to certain extend especially for home green water type which is likely to be smaller in vol compare to those china farm large ponds.

as for excessive protein, not every fish can take in so much protein. It will be up to individual hobbyists to find which is level of energy, growth is best for his own fish during the growth period, grooming period and sustaining period. Figure that out !

In fact, as protein break down, it cause ammonia surge when the fish excret waste product. Negative effects on excessive protein is not new to this biological advance world. It's a growth food if well selected and balanced. If used incorrectly, it's will become a negative growth factor that you will not be able to solve so easily.

now i'm worried over having too intense a green.. sad.gif

heh.. i stopped using chroma long ago.. my fishy don't like it anyway
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 1:40 am
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QUOTE(CyberET @ Mon 01 Dec 2003 00:54 AM)
they don't bring in from Tung Hoi anymore sad.gif from Fu Zhou now instead

wah .... the fish now speak hokkien, ming-nan dialect instead of cantonese liao.

FuZhou fish har, Union farm lor. That's what u getting from QianHu also mah.
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