Looking For Solid Sv Ranchus... Which Lfs Have...., more selections? Options

[Chinmo]

helo guys, i'm new to this forum, i'm looking for solid side view ranchus.... thai or jap also can, but the problem is i do not know which lfs to visit? i know this ? been posted quite alot of times, but pls give me some directions the one at sims ave(AC) , simon rd one? any other suggestions? pls advice... Thanks u all in advance.

[The Matrix]

Started from a short message .... then ... 1st time I see such a loooooonnnnngggggg thread within a day, actually just hours.

Okay, a few interesting arguement here and since all fallen asleep, i just drop in my opinions ...

Grading
In fact, not just Thailand breeders doing grading, but Chinese and Japanese as well. However, when comes to grading, it depends on how one breeder judge and experience in judging. To certain extend, grading helps to sell fish in batches and of course, income to the breeders. However, not many people understand such grading unless one has been taught on what each level or grade means.

As of right now, let's not talk about such sensitive topic. But to focus on how one decide to buy a fish with respect to how one understand a fish. Grading will only cloud your decision.

Keeping
No matter what fish, from hot to cold or from hard to blackish water, the MOST important thing a hobbyist should start with is understand the fish and the required environment. We might not be able to "move" the Amazon River to our house just to keep discus or Lake Malawi just to keep cichlids. But we can, in some way, understand what these fish prefered, what they need, what they afraid, what they eat, then we think of HOW we can achieve by providing these WHATs.

Don't tell me goldfish also come from common goldfish and they live in the wild river. What we have in our home ARE fanciful goldfish, cross bred for hundred of years, grown in China, Japan or Thailand farms, sold to those shops, and we buy them. They won't be able to survive in the wild. There are vast information here, if not enough, the internet contains hundreds of search pages about goldfish, their breeding, their habitats, their food, etc. All one need is to read, digest, understand and focus on the HOWs.

Buying Power
Sensitive leh. Different people has different wallets and pockets. Anyone who would afford to buy 20 kashino at sky rocket price, dun need to envy. Important is can one keep it well. Full-stop.


Upgrading of newbies
Like HB mentioned, TOUGH !
In actual fact, everyday you are learning about your own fish. Everyone is a new keeper. It is not how many one can buy or how much one can afford. To me, a very simple and easy indicator about one's knowledge is to tell yourself this -> My previous fishes are not nice at all comparing to present ones.

Then I say you have move higher level of understanding. How high can it goes ? No limit.

skill, experience
Skill and experience is not easy topic to write. All voice down to individual eagerness, determination, perseverance, endurance and very very important about attaining skill and gaining experience is Passion.

I am not talking about i like ranchu today, guppy tomorrow, betta the next. Might as well print some pictures or put a nice one in that CTRL-ALT-DEL MSWindow screen (kekekeke APPLE users I dunno what to call it). The people here I know of are putting in a lot of effort, time, delication and sacrifies just to keep their fish in a very good environment.

One will argue that I only want a tank to beautify my house, or just something to relax and watch after a day of hard work. I believe if one buy a dog or cat, one will learn or try to learn everything about keeping them. Don't tell me u don't bath, feed and clean up their environment. Will you hug a sick dog ?

Directing to lfs
Nothing wrong with it. But I guess HB done a good job listing down all the shops that bring in goldfish. Well, not everyday one can find good ones, but at least, we know where are such shops or farms that we could visit when we are free and probably got a chance to buy 1 or 2. But of course, if one constantly promoting for a single source, then that's something we, as a hobbyist, should be aware of the intent.

Information sharing
Highly sensitive issue. Did anyone search anything about goldfish in the WWW ? Of course ! Ton of papers just to print them all out.

But all talking about history, food, water, filter, pictures, more pictures and languages that one could not understand.

But did anyone noticed that no breeders will mention about their breeding techniques, breeding stocks, culling methology and how they see what really is good.

These are kept secret, commercially not viable to fill the public with such information, worst of all, many of the chinese farm are family controlled and information are passed down to the "chosen" one.

Such information are hard, near impossible, to gather. One needs to gain experience through years of painful mistakes. Many takes years even with guidance. Forums, websites are channel of mass communication. With many different skillset, experience gathering together at a single place is like a pub with good and bad drinkers. Some like wine, some beer, some girls.

Some of the people here has organised gatherings in a regular basis. These, in fact, is a better channel to communicate, interact and discuss. Understanding each other better and in return a strong tie within a small community, better cooperation, improving in a orderly manner, Achieve MORE. Don't you (those that has went to these gatherings) find it that way ?

Let's go back to have fun ! Start looking at your fish ...

This post has been edited by The Matrix: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 1:57 am