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pepsi73
post Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:30 am
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Hi all

I just came back from Thailand and had bought 3 cute goldfish from Chatuchat market at cheap price but was been stopped once I go through the X-ray machine. Very sad to leave them there......
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post Fri, 26 Nov 2004 3:59 pm
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My two cents on this issue about buying from thailand.

If you go through similar postings about how to buy from thailand you'll noticed only newbies asked them.

Oldies don't.

Just look around RG; how many chio chio oldies' goldfish are privately imported by them? None.

Most if not all newbies don't even know how to select a ranchu. So after all the hussles of importing them privately, everyone here gets a good laugh when we see their special ranchu! rofl2.gif

Enjoy the relaxing holiday trip soaking in their culture instead of wasting your time fishing something you don't even know how to appreciate fully yet.
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post Sat, 27 Nov 2004 9:43 am
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QUOTE(Allan @ Fri, 26 Nov 2004 3:59 pm)
My two cents on this issue about buying from thailand.

If you go through similar postings about how to buy from thailand you'll noticed only newbies asked them. 

Oldies don't.

Just look around RG; how many chio chio oldies' goldfish are privately imported by them?  None.

Most if not all newbies don't even know how to select a ranchu.  So after all the hussles of importing them privately, everyone here gets a good laugh when we see their special ranchu! rofl2.gif 

Enjoy the relaxing holiday trip soaking in their culture instead of wasting your time fishing something you don't even know how to appreciate fully yet.
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Very strong words, please don't run down on newbie but guide them.

Generally when the fishes are left in the LFS or Clubs for public, it would have gone through tiers of the farm owner--->LFS owner---> "kaki" ----> public.

I always say these "Mmm..nice fish...but the next time look for these features.." and at LFS if I notice newbie..."I would tell them...here...this is a nice fish". and obviously with disapproval look from the owner.

Let newbie ask and you guide. My nephew tell me..."That is no stupid question". If a newbie knows less, be it if he buys here, are the oldies going to laugh at them?

Explain the reasons why it's better to buy from LFS here and the problem getting overseas. This is a better approach.
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post Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:53 am
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QUOTE(CHLeong @ Sat, 27 Nov 2004 9:43 am)
Very strong words, please don't run down on newbie but guide them.
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I guess the exchange rate is very favorable and my two cents worth more than they really are. smile.gif Sorry about the strong words nevertheless.

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Generally when the fishes are left in the LFS or Clubs for public, it would have gone through tiers of  the farm owner--->LFS owner---> "kaki" ----> public.

The very same tier also exists in bangkok. If anything, the thai local kakis stand a better chance in landing a good fish since they can be there daily, or have worked up a good relationship with the Lfs owner than you as a visiting tourist. So your chances of buying a good ranchu is as slim as when you try your luck locally.

Thai fishes sold locally are no difference from those you buy directly in thailand. Sure, there's a markup but that's not a crime especially when the importers has taken on the risks to import.

MOST importantly, just how many ranchus do you need that you need to source them cheaply (by cutting the middleman and go direct)?

Browse through local LFS on weekends with your family and friends. With luck (and skills), you can pick up a winner for a song. That's part of the fun in keeping goldfish; to hunt and slowly build up your prized collection -- not waste your hard earned vacation whacking cheap fishes like a typical kiasu newbies S'porean!
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I guess the exchange rate is very favorable and my two cents worth more than they really are.  smile.gif  Sorry about the strong words nevertheless.

My apologies to all I term "newbie" and "oldie".

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MOST importantly, just how many ranchus do you need that you need to source them cheaply (by cutting the middleman and go direct)? 


This is an assumption.

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Browse through local LFS on weekends with your family and friends.  With luck (and skills), you can pick up a winner for a song.  That's part of the fun in keeping goldfish; to hunt and slowly build up your prized collection -- not waste your hard earned vacation whacking cheap fishes like a typical kiasu newbies S'porean!


Yes, the hunting and raising goldfish is truly the joy of this hobby. So should the hunt be restricted to Singapore only? Another strong word for those on vacation and hunted..."Kiasu S'porean"? For the gentleman who's fishes was confiscated by the thai authority please do not feel hurt by the remark, just enjoy your hobby.
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QUOTE(CHLeong @ Sat, 27 Nov 2004 5:18 pm)
Yes, the hunting and raising goldfish is truly the joy of this hobby. So should the hunt be restricted to Singapore only?
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leong;
u still cannot catch what ve transpired ah.
a holiday should be a holiday. just go and enjoy. if enjoyment is derived from goldfish hunting, no problem, it is a personal decision.

seriously for those who ve gone thru' this "exercise", it is not really worth the while unless
a. u seriously know what u looking for
b. and what u want in a goldfish
c. and that the source must be there in country X
d. and that it is not available in Spore .
e. and that one annot afford it in Spore.
f. and it is worth the immigration trouble and risk during transportation.

Notice i put "And" from (a) to (b),
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QUOTE(white horse T1 @ Sat, 27 Nov 2004 8:46 pm)
leong;
u still cannot catch what ve transpired ah.....
....f. and it is worth the immigration trouble and risk during transportation.

Notice i put "And" from (a) to (b),
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Yes, these input of yours is good. Those who has shared their experience with visit and purchase overseas is goind a great favour for hobbist.

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pepsi73   Goldfish Stopped At Thailand Custom   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:30 am
CP   Yup,understand that these days you cant bring gold...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:23 am
Allan   The above is only partly right; read up the follo...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:15 pm
CHLeong   Does anyone know what kind of permit is required b...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 11:26 am
CHLeong   I did have the same replies from our AVA but does ...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 9:49 pm
GF Lover   I think only the Thai exporter can help you get t...   Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:50 pm
RanchuGOD   From what I remember, there is an office within th...   Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:03 am
CHLeong   Thanks bros, information is much appreciated. Unl...   Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:18 pm
mountain   nope   Mon, 22 Nov 2004 1:12 pm
white horse T1   u need to have the endurance of "amazing ra...   Mon, 22 Nov 2004 1:31 pm
Seacucumber   :clap   Tue, 23 Nov 2004 5:51 pm
white horse T1   : ... young and reckless. chiong and chiong l...   Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:06 pm
Allan   My two cents on this issue about buying from thail...   Fri, 26 Nov 2004 3:59 pm
CHLeong   Very strong words, please don't run down on ...   Sat, 27 Nov 2004 9:43 am
Allan   I guess the exchange rate is very favorable and m...   Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:53 am
CHLeong   My apologies to all I term "newbie" and...   Sat, 27 Nov 2004 5:18 pm
white horse T1   leong; u still cannot catch what ve transpired ...   Sat, 27 Nov 2004 8:46 pm
CHLeong   Yes, these input of yours is good. Those who has...   Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:58 am
Allan   The kiasu Singaporean phenomena is well documen...   Sun, 28 Nov 2004 3:24 pm
CHLeong   Exactly! This forum is for exhange of ideas ...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:07 am
mountain   additional point to note : secure your wallet well...   Sat, 27 Nov 2004 1:12 am
desireless   Speaking from a man with experience :rofl Anoth...   Sat, 27 Nov 2004 3:27 am
Jos Nana   Once a certain level of skill is reached, nothing ...   Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:44 pm
GF Lover   As the saying goes "Beauty lies in the eyes o...   Sun, 28 Nov 2004 11:26 am
pepsi73   I put up this notice is to let others newbies to ...   Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:42 pm
desireless   Why should anyone feel hurt? That "Kiasu...   Sun, 28 Nov 2004 3:24 pm
CHLeong   "Kiasu" is a remark at someone's b...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:19 am
desireless   Kiasu is of course not a positve word, I agree. B...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 3:03 pm
CHLeong   Oh, yes I will. Initially I find it amusing and ...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 3:42 pm
GF Lover   I have actually hand carry a pair of ranchu from H...   Sun, 28 Nov 2004 9:08 pm
CHLeong   Well, happy for you but this is in conflict to...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:26 am
mountain   hehehe.. okay lor .. 8-) try to bring the same ...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 3:08 pm
Jos Nana   This is a discussion board. You would have notice ...   Sun, 28 Nov 2004 1:54 pm
desireless   Indeed from what I observe in this forum, only ne...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 2:54 pm
CHLeong   Please state how do you qualify "newbies...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 3:35 pm
desireless   It depends on where this "oldbird" is.....   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 3:54 pm
The Matrix   发生啥事。俺...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 5:30 pm
Seacucumber   for example, i am a new bird.... my id number is 5...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 7:08 pm
domho7   eh my ID 110, I OLDER BIRD THAN U AH!! :...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 8:26 pm
mountain   i am ID 22 .. swee swee 22 but i don't have a ...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 8:08 pm
Allan   Er... this topic going quite a bit off track leow ...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 8:38 pm
domho7   yeah whether u v new bird or v old bird, everyon...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 8:50 pm
The Matrix   ID#3 say something liao ... I far far behind one b...   Mon, 29 Nov 2004 8:54 pm
marc9   i noe this has been mentioned before..but i cant f...   Sun, 06 Feb 2005 1:30 am


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