PH Buffer, Die Die must. Period. Options

[mountain]

splitted from thread here.
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I think for PH crash it might be misleading to have SODIUM BICARBONATE as 1st line of treatment .. SODIUM BICARBONATE is for buffering water, and not for treatment of fish's health plus if the PH crash, HB wouldn't advised you to dump 2 teaspoon of BS into the water immediately

[Bandit]

Hi,

Newbie hereafter reading the super long posting 4pages I still dont quite understand.

Hope some old birds can give me advice

Just started rearing goldfish this week. Configuration is as follow

2 feet tank, OHF (Dolphin brand pump CR8800), white filter mat'l bought at LFS, Cosmo surface skimmer, 6 med size oranda.

What's the definition of PH crash?
How to prevent PH crash?
What are the chances of goldfish survicing PH crash?
What should be administer to the goldfish who suffer the PH crash ordeal?

What's the definition of PH shock?
How to prevent PH shock?

Whats the definition of PH buffering?
Is PH buffering only applicable for Bio filtration?

Is it possible to setup BB on my OHF and how do I go abt doing it?
What is cannister? is it same as OHF but using different filtration?

Sorry for the long list of question.

[desireless]

>>2 feet tank, OHF (Dolphin brand pump CR8800), white filter mat'l bought at LFS, Cosmo surface skimmer, 6 med size oranda.
Too overstocked. And Orandas grow very fast. Get a bigger tank. Even 4-footer is too small for 6 orandas.

>> What's the definition of PH crash?
pH go down till below 7 to acidic area.
Simple summary: Ammonia at low pH becomes harmless ammonium which is harmless to your fishes. But when you perform partial water change, the traces of ammonium converts back to ammonia (which is lethal) and bring about ammonia poisoning to your fishes. Most of the time this process is fatal.

>> How to prevent PH crash?
Buffer your water with BS. You can sustain the same pH for a longer time. In simple word, locking the pH so that it doesn't swing much... for a longer time than with buffering.

>> What are the chances of goldfish survicing PH crash?
As little as zero. Lucky surviving ones will need TLC to recover.

>> What should be administer to the goldfish who suffer the PH crash ordeal?
TLC: Tender, Love & Care . Put it in a QT tank with JYP and make sure you change water everyday.

>> What's the definition of PH shock?
You bring in a fish from another environment of pH 6 and put inside a new tank of pH8. Confirm pH shock.

>> How to prevent PH shock?
Need a pH pen to determine pH in both waters. Difference of +/- pH of 3 0.3 should still be ok.

>> Whats the definition of PH buffering?
Read and understand this thread thoroughly

>> Is PH buffering only applicable for Bio filtration?
Applicable but not only to. It is in fact applicable to any type of filtration used.

>> Is it possible to setup BB on my OHF and how do I go abt doing it?
Yes. Leaving the tank running for 2 weeks should be able to build enough BB to last. I don't do this as I am using Sponge filter and this is how I cycle them. Bro cpiw has a good thread on OHF:
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1901

>> What is cannister? is it same as OHF but using different filtration?
Those common Ehiem/Jebao filter are in canister form.

>> Sorry for the long list of question.
No problem.

This post has been edited by desireless: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 3:08 pm

[CP]

>> How to prevent PH shock?
Need a pH pen to determine pH in both waters. Difference of +/- pH of 3 should still be ok.

Bro,
Do you mean 3 or 0.3?
+/- pH of 3 means pH 4 to pH 7 also OK. 1000 times acidity/alkalinity difference.