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post Tue, 22 Feb 2005 3:06 am
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Hi guys,was juz reading up on lots of old treads and got alot more knowledge abt goldfish keeping but also at the same time some doubts on my keeping methods..Do u guys remove ya goldfish from ya main tank during water change then put them back after awhile or juz change the water with them inside??? ohmy.gif
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post Tue, 22 Feb 2005 6:19 pm
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QUOTE(t3r @ Tue, 22 Feb 2005 3:06 am)
Hi guys,was juz reading up on lots of old treads and got alot more knowledge abt goldfish keeping but also at the same time some doubts on my keeping methods..Do u guys remove ya goldfish from ya main tank during water change then put them back after awhile or juz change the water with them inside???  ohmy.gif
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Hi, water change should always take these couple of factors into consideration.

1) you want to protect the bio materials from collapsing.
2) maintaining the right buffer
3) clearing the chlrines and choloromine
4) temperature
5) condition of the fish.

what are the risk to the fish if u leave them in the water? i.e. if you are change a small percentage and the existing water condition being good, you can leave them in. Or, the fish is weak from previous ordeals and the change in condition would affect them .. take them out .. OR .. big tails fishes vs strong water currents from the hose .. take them out .. etc ..

experiences .. water change depends on what you have set up and can only be learn thru experiences. Practise more often smile.gif and match what you have read on the forum vs the test results. Its fun, but don't be overwhelm that it kills you rather then the fish.
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QUOTE(mountain @ Tue, 22 Feb 2005 6:19 pm)
Hi, water change should always take these couple of factors into consideration.

1) you want to protect the bio materials from collapsing.
2) maintaining the right buffer
3) clearing the chlrines and choloromine
4) temperature
5) condition of the fish.

what are the risk to the fish if u leave them in the water? i.e. if you are change a small percentage and the existing water condition being good, you can leave them in. Or, the fish is weak from previous ordeals and the change in condition would affect them .. take them out .. OR .. big tails fishes vs strong water currents from the hose .. take them out .. etc ..

experiences .. water change depends on what you have set up and can only be learn thru experiences. Practise more often smile.gif and match what you have read on the forum vs the test results. Its fun, but don't be overwhelm that it kills you rather then the fish.
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Thanks for the detailed info Mountain,anyway any feedback on using oxycure after water changes?Seem like a pretty good product,helps to prevent infectious diseases and stuff..
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Thanks for the detailed info Mountain,anyway any feedback on using oxycure after water changes?Seem like a pretty good product,helps to prevent infectious diseases and stuff..
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salt and oxycure is used for purpose of QT, disease / stress management. If your fish is not sick nor stress, i personally find it not necessary. If we are not sick, you don't take flu tablets everyday do we..

but IF your fish is not well, it would be a necessarry process together with salt dips. hope this helps, there has been a lot of previous discussions on salt. read around the old threads smile.gif
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QUOTE(mountain @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 8:46 am)
salt and oxycure is used for purpose of QT, disease / stress management. If your fish is not sick nor stress, i personally find it not necessary. If we are not sick, you don't take flu tablets everyday do we..

but IF your fish is not well, it would be a necessarry process together with salt dips. hope this helps, there has been a lot of previous discussions on salt. read around the old threads  smile.gif
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Talk about stresses, I have 2 similar experiences of goldfish slowly dying off after about 80% water change each time. However, usually I will check water PH (using PH kit) and apply anti-chlorine agent before refilling the tank. Hence I can only suspect temperature thoughthe water directly from the tap seems ok.

Later, white spots appear all over the goldfish and they will stay at the bottom and became less active and died off after a day. sad.gif

Anyone can offer me an advise?
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t3r   Water Changing Question..?   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 3:06 am
CP   Personal preference.If you need to change 100% do ...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 9:52 am
The Matrix   if only a small cleaning up of dirt, then just b...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 9:54 am
CyberET   i sucked the eye out :cry   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 9:55 am
The Matrix   same same ... hahahahahaha   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:00 am
CP   Actually I would much prefer to change 100% each t...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:13 am
jhansolo   That's strange, I put all my fish in a contain...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:15 am
goldrush   I do a total water change with a spare tank.100% c...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:35 am
goldrush   Incidentally,still on topic of water changes,can t...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:05 pm
CP   Yo Goldrush, It is almost impossible to equate t...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 1:36 pm
goldrush   Thxs for your reply appreciate your prompt respons...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 2:55 pm
CP   If you have tonnes of money in the bank and no ne...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 4:10 pm
t3r   Thanks for the enlightening guys! :peace :pea...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 3:15 pm
CyberET   i do 95% change for my single demekin in my 100L 2...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 3:24 pm
Seacucumber   change water?? tats a annual chore for me.... :win...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 3:40 pm
The Matrix   50% where got enough. 95-100% weekly and 2 of my b...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 3:58 pm
CP   Wah, hoh miah, no need to work. What is a discus...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 4:30 pm
The Matrix   wake up early change water, go work, come home c...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:13 pm
infocus   Wow! You must be pumping your discus very ha...   Fri, 25 Feb 2005 8:55 pm
goldrush   Thxs for the briefing cpiw2002 Maybe you can fish...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 5:09 pm
CyberET   drain dry and use the all natural, free, efficient...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 5:18 pm
mountain   Hi, water change should always take these couple...   Tue, 22 Feb 2005 6:19 pm
t3r   Thanks for the detailed info Mountain,anyway any ...   Tue, 01 Mar 2005 2:38 am
mountain   salt and oxycure is used for purpose of QT, dise...   Tue, 01 Mar 2005 8:46 am
blueye   Talk about stresses, I have 2 similar experience...   Thu, 10 Mar 2005 3:43 pm


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