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post Mon, 02 May 2005 12:12 am
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Arowanas has come with a certificate and chip implant for some time now.It was done with a purpose,the reason in which I am not very sure but has since been a common acceptable practice.

I have also seen high grade kois bearing certificates from Momotaro at Max Koi Farm.The kois costs thousands for a 30cm one.

But certificates for goldfish? ;) I first came across them late last year,bearing the name of the farm that produces the goldfish and a classification of the fish,usually a 'showclass' or 'special show'.I have yet to see one with a lower grading (such as AAA).The LFS that brought in some 20 to 30 pieces of TVs and SVs all carried a certificate,in other words 20 to 30 show class fishes were brought in at one go.

It just doesn't make sense.If a reputable farm or a reputable breeder produces a cert to signify that the fish is from his farm or from him as a breeder,it is understandable.I have no problems with that.But if a somewhat unknown farm or unknown breeder produces a cert saying that his fish is show class,then it is a different thing altogether.To put it bluntly,marketing gimmick.

I have seen many of these certs and dare say that I can produce better ones.The photo were badly taken,it was probably printed with a home PC on a piece of A4 and then laminated.The whole stack of certificate I had seen all bore the date 31 Nov 2004.WTF,a 31st in the month of November!!So much can be said of the professionalism.

And I have seen buyers felt very happy with their purchase simply because it carries a cert.And potential buyers viewing fishes asking the LFS whether that particular fish carries a cert.

Haiz,haven't we got enough of our own paper chase?What a load of crap!!
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post Mon, 02 May 2005 7:43 pm
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andy, japan also got cert. but the cert is only for fish breeded by certain group of breeders or a particular famous breeder. it is unusual for a cert for a particular goldfish.

genetically, goldfish is still unstable after 1500 yrs of breeding. Dun tell me some funny people can stablise it within the past 20 yrs. tickle me please. ok, unless they got to know the goldfish croning technology now developing somewhere in China ... maybe another 3-5 yrs, every fish looks alike machiam neon tetra.

i won't go against issuing of cert, just be sure that the grading system be printed properly on the cert. how could a small fish be in show grade. what really is show grade ? the definition of grading is blurred by the commercial marketing strategy and interests.

look at those expensive fishes with certs, the grading system is quite standard and easily understood. Even tunghoi also provide a good grading system to price their exporting fish. but never a term as "show grade".

well, if someone really want to buy a fish with cert, so be it. a carrot head will forever a carrot head unless the carrot head eats his own humble carrot pie. tongue.gif
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