Goldfish Certs - Does It Make Sense? Options

[CP]

Arowanas has come with a certificate and chip implant for some time now.It was done with a purpose,the reason in which I am not very sure but has since been a common acceptable practice.

I have also seen high grade kois bearing certificates from Momotaro at Max Koi Farm.The kois costs thousands for a 30cm one.

But certificates for goldfish? ;) I first came across them late last year,bearing the name of the farm that produces the goldfish and a classification of the fish,usually a 'showclass' or 'special show'.I have yet to see one with a lower grading (such as AAA).The LFS that brought in some 20 to 30 pieces of TVs and SVs all carried a certificate,in other words 20 to 30 show class fishes were brought in at one go.

It just doesn't make sense.If a reputable farm or a reputable breeder produces a cert to signify that the fish is from his farm or from him as a breeder,it is understandable.I have no problems with that.But if a somewhat unknown farm or unknown breeder produces a cert saying that his fish is show class,then it is a different thing altogether.To put it bluntly,marketing gimmick.

I have seen many of these certs and dare say that I can produce better ones.The photo were badly taken,it was probably printed with a home PC on a piece of A4 and then laminated.The whole stack of certificate I had seen all bore the date 31 Nov 2004.WTF,a 31st in the month of November!!So much can be said of the professionalism.

And I have seen buyers felt very happy with their purchase simply because it carries a cert.And potential buyers viewing fishes asking the LFS whether that particular fish carries a cert.

Haiz,haven't we got enough of our own paper chase?What a load of crap!!

[ranchu8]

When CPIW first raised this post, I thought and expected (like a few others I presume) that there would be a line of replies on this. Appears not.

My view on this is simple: I would like to see certs for top view ranchus that are sold for say more than $300, particularly on whether they are Japanese bred and to know its bloodline. (I do not mean for bbrs or when the ranchu is still too young when its colour shape etc is radically changing until it may look different a few weeks after it is shipped in.) My reasoning is simple: good money is being paid for alleged known Japanese tvr, generally higher than for Thai tvr. There are also rumours that a seller'(s) claims that their pricey ranchu are of certain bloodlines and of Japanese bred are false at times. Knowing the ranchu's true bloodline will also advance knowledge. True, the ranchu's traits are not stable for all. However, there are supposedly certain traits for certain known bloodlines. Sure, the cert is no guarantee. But at least it would make a seller think twice before making fraudulent claims. The cert is a document and a receipt (with the cert particulars) for the ranchu can be asked for, esp if one pays hundreds for it. If the seller refuses to give a receipt, would it not smell? Without even a cert, how do you even start to make your case or deter such seller(s)?