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post Mon, 02 May 2005 12:12 am
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Arowanas has come with a certificate and chip implant for some time now.It was done with a purpose,the reason in which I am not very sure but has since been a common acceptable practice.

I have also seen high grade kois bearing certificates from Momotaro at Max Koi Farm.The kois costs thousands for a 30cm one.

But certificates for goldfish? ;) I first came across them late last year,bearing the name of the farm that produces the goldfish and a classification of the fish,usually a 'showclass' or 'special show'.I have yet to see one with a lower grading (such as AAA).The LFS that brought in some 20 to 30 pieces of TVs and SVs all carried a certificate,in other words 20 to 30 show class fishes were brought in at one go.

It just doesn't make sense.If a reputable farm or a reputable breeder produces a cert to signify that the fish is from his farm or from him as a breeder,it is understandable.I have no problems with that.But if a somewhat unknown farm or unknown breeder produces a cert saying that his fish is show class,then it is a different thing altogether.To put it bluntly,marketing gimmick.

I have seen many of these certs and dare say that I can produce better ones.The photo were badly taken,it was probably printed with a home PC on a piece of A4 and then laminated.The whole stack of certificate I had seen all bore the date 31 Nov 2004.WTF,a 31st in the month of November!!So much can be said of the professionalism.

And I have seen buyers felt very happy with their purchase simply because it carries a cert.And potential buyers viewing fishes asking the LFS whether that particular fish carries a cert.

Haiz,haven't we got enough of our own paper chase?What a load of crap!!
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post Sat, 14 May 2005 11:40 am
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haiz, u didn't get my point, and simply repeated yourself.. nevermind smile.gif
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QUOTE(CyberET @ Sat, 14 May 2005 11:40 am)
haiz, u didn't get my point, and simply repeated yourself.. nevermind smile.gif
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thanks smile.gif we can agree to disagree smile.gif in fact, i am expecting retorts, particularly from one member good_very.gif
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post Sat, 14 May 2005 3:25 pm
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QUOTE(ranchu8 @ Sat, 14 May 2005 12:25 pm)
in fact, i am expecting retorts, particularly from one member  good_very.gif
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Who har, me?

I never expected a slew of replies for this thread,as I believe there are not many goldfish hobbyists blindly going after certs.Not in RG,at least.

My intention is not to let new goldfish hobbyists swayed into purchasing a goldfish at a high price just because it carries a cert.

As I have mentioned earlier, it makes no sense for a little known farm to call their goldfishes showgrades by way of printing a pic on a sheet of A4 paper using Microsoft Powerpoint, then spend $1 laminating it and jack up the price of the fish by $100.

As for reputable breeders producing certs for their fish,it may not be practical to print certs by the thousands for individual fish for export.And since goldfish changes quite dramatically in the first few months and the lifespan is short compared to koi and aro, the fish would have looked very different if it is not sold within a month or 2 from the time the cert is produced.Kekeke, imagine if a LFS tries to sell Chinmo's ranchu six months after he imported it, see the difference between the actual fish and when young.

Buy a fish because you like it, dont bother about it having a cert or not.That is the point I am trying to put across for this thread.
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