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HappyBuddha
post Fri, 05 Dec 2003 9:44 pm
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I was googling and came across this unusual (to me) goldfish at a Japanese web site.

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It has the head of a top-view ranchu but a butterfly tails. There's a dorsal fin on the ranchu-like body; I wonder how it looks from the side.

I can't read Japanese, but here's the page with more goldfishes I've never seen before.

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post Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:26 am
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Hi Happybuddah!

I found some interesting info about the name of these goldfish from the web site.

I wrote earlier...
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This type of oranda is called oranda shishi gashira


I haven't been around because I have been busy researching. I bought a few older goldfish books that were written 40 to 80 years ago. Very cool stuff.

Any way... oranda shishigashira translates to "dutch lionhead". Which implies that the use of "dutch" sort of like "false or pretend" to make this a valid variety. Remember, this comes from old text.

I found lot's of interesting names for goldfish in the old days.

So the use of the full name for the oranda on this web site makes me think that these oranda resemble the oranda that were bred 100 or so years ago.

If you want me to post more "interesting goldfish history" let me know. I won't do it on my own as I would hate to bore you guys. Since some of you, (Demekin wink.gif ) already know this stuff.
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HappyBuddha   What Kind Of Goldfish Are These?   Fri, 05 Dec 2003 9:44 pm
LASERGUY   Looks like oranda but this is sure a rocker! ...   Fri, 05 Dec 2003 9:50 pm
kingyoo   おらんだ I can read some...   Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:32 pm
The Matrix   top part talk sale sale sale .... the fishes look...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 1:29 am
kingyoo   Ok, my nihonjin otomodachi (Japanese friend) trans...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 6:58 am
HappyBuddha   Ah... so those might be the Japanese Orandas (alth...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 8:45 am
kingyoo   Ironically, Oranda is Japanese translation for en...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 9:00 am
The Matrix   woooo ... yup. oranda should actually hv the tail...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 9:58 am
HappyBuddha   Do they compete the pearlscales? I for one prefe...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:08 am
kingyoo   What happens to them HB? What kind of disease o...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:10 am
HappyBuddha   Nothing of this sort but sigh... it was my fault. ...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:29 am
Inxs   This is a japanese Goldfish. I saw it in magazine....   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:44 am
Jos Nana   Just like ranchu, the Japs see, keep and compete ...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 2:19 pm
kingyoo   Nice pearlscale goldfish. They look like Christma...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 3:57 pm
Allan   How a topview ranchu swims carries the most weigh...   Sat, 06 Dec 2003 4:42 pm
The Matrix   everything is about gracefulness. very subjective...   Sun, 07 Dec 2003 2:03 am
The Matrix   hmmm so far i dun recall, maybe got to flip thru ...   Sun, 07 Dec 2003 2:05 am
chrisamos   this is a top view Oranda, in japan they try to b...   Mon, 08 Dec 2003 4:03 pm
HappyBuddha   Two more topview japanese (calico) oranda for you ...   Mon, 15 Dec 2003 6:06 pm
Allan   JK Aquatic has two top-view calico Oranda, very si...   Fri, 19 Dec 2003 4:06 pm
kingyoo   Ok, got more translation on this site. The fish s...   Tue, 30 Dec 2003 3:30 am
kingyoo   Hi Happybuddah! I found some interesting info...   Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:26 am
mountain   :beg1 Post POst!! PosT!! :beg1 w...   Fri, 09 Jan 2004 12:18 pm
dennis   Please, do post. :P   Fri, 09 Jan 2004 4:13 pm
Goldenpearl   I believe its just the ful name of Oranda in Japan...   Thu, 29 Oct 2009 2:01 pm
Gary   I believe its just the ful name of Oranda in Japa...   Fri, 04 Mar 2011 2:41 pm
Gary   http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac12/garychua/3...   Fri, 04 Mar 2011 2:46 pm
hondataeg6   Gary, you're oranda are beautiful. These are n...   Tue, 23 Aug 2011 2:45 am


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