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HappyBuddha
post Mon, 05 Jan 2004 6:24 pm
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I know I once said I don't like Oranda but... lately I've been quite fascinated by them especially if they have massive headgrowth. I also said I don't like calico goldfish ... but... given a choice... I still prefer a "normal" goldfish. biggrin.gif

Here's the first of two I bought in Hong Kong.

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QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Wed 28 Jan 2004 10:19 AM)
I also don't know what epsom salt is... but I read "salt" and it is my understanding that parasites will adapt to the salinity and becomes immune. Hence, I only apply salt when the fish needs medical treatment.

Epsom salt is NOT a salt, we just call it that. It is magnesium sulfate hydrate. It looks like salt in crystalized form. No worries.

QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Wed 28 Jan 2004 10:19 AM)
I don't know what exactly GH is but would adding baking soda, which boost the KH, work equally well?

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Water accumulates many dissolved substances before it reaches our home taps. Hardness is a measurement of the concentration of metal ions. Some are calcium, magnesium, iron, and zinc. In most water it consist mainly of calcium and magnesium salts, with trace amounts of other metals.
There are two kinds of hardness that we consider with fish keeping. Permanent hardness and alkalinity (kH) So, kh plus Permanent hardness equals general hardness (gH).

Alkalinity or temporary (carbonate) hardness (kH) refers to the hardness derived mainly from carbonate and bicarbonate ions and directly reflects the buffering capacity of the water. So adding Baking Soda (sodium bicarbonate) raises kh, thus buffers your water.

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Permanent hardness measures ions such as nitrates, sulphates, and chlorides etc,

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General hardness (gH) refers to the dissolved concentration primarily of magnesium and calcium ions.


A lot of fish keepers skip the gH testing as it doesn't seem as important. However, I feel that for my fish I want to give them the best care. My tap water is almost zero kH and zero gH. Their colors are more brilliant with addition of epsom salt since they are indoors without much sunlight and no green water.

I hope that helps.
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HappyBuddha   My New Calico Orandas (what Is Gh)   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 6:24 pm
HappyBuddha   Check out those cheeks too. http://rafflesgold.dy...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 6:25 pm
HappyBuddha   I hope to pump it up around the waist. :D http:/...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 6:29 pm
HappyBuddha   The right-side. http://rafflesgold.dyndns.org/~rg...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 6:30 pm
HappyBuddha   Another close-up view... the brain exploded! ...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 6:38 pm
HappyBuddha   Top view. 8-) http://rafflesgold.dyndns.org/~rg/i...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 6:44 pm
mountain   their caps always grow out of shape one .. one pie...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 7:54 pm
Seacucumber   the top view is pretty interesting.... hahaha.... ...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 11:07 pm
void   Wah... :o you mean you bought those orandas fro...   Mon, 05 Jan 2004 11:57 pm
dennis   There is no faulting the wen of the first fish. Si...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 12:38 am
dennis   void, I have include the importation limits proce...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 12:52 am
CyberET   sorry, i only like the coloration of the fishy :)   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 1:50 am
Inxs   Any way to spray it black and make it longer, look...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:23 am
HappyBuddha   I hand carry them back. I didn't have any pr...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 1:10 pm
void   Thanks, bro for your info... :good   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 3:39 pm
void   Wow... cool man... :good_very Should visit Tung...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 3:45 pm
HappyBuddha   Here are some pics of the seconds Oranda. Unfortu...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 5:35 pm
HappyBuddha   Right-side. http://rafflesgold.dyndns.org/~rg/ima...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 5:36 pm
HappyBuddha   This guy is not so long compared to the first one?...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 5:37 pm
Inxs   This one look better than the first one. i ...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 5:50 pm
HappyBuddha   I need to learn more about Orandas... as I never l...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 5:51 pm
HappyBuddha   I didn't go to tung choi street (aka men...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 5:59 pm
LASERGUY   From what I learnt from Seah at AC, Oranda with l...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 6:54 pm
HappyBuddha   I recall Alvin Lim mentioned something like that ...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 7:46 pm
void   Yes... this one looks much better than the first ...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 9:38 pm
Inxs   But I still feel the head is too heavy. Keep swim...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 9:43 pm
void   Hehehe... correct me if I'm wrong... I've...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 10:03 pm
dennis   Nope strongly disagree! :hmm Anabel Chong po...   Tue, 06 Jan 2004 11:01 pm
HappyBuddha   That's not the case for these orandas. They ...   Wed, 07 Jan 2004 8:08 am
Hamad   Wow, to me these fish look absolutely stunning. I...   Mon, 26 Jan 2004 5:49 pm
LASERGUY   Welcome, Hamad ! You have finally found your w...   Mon, 26 Jan 2004 6:00 pm
Hamad   Thank you so much Laserguy, I missed you guys a lo...   Mon, 26 Jan 2004 8:33 pm
kingyoo   Hi happybuddah! I like the first oranda. It ...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 1:42 am
HappyBuddha   I'm not a big fan of calico too unless there...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 6:43 am
HappyBuddha   In Singapore, the most common type of oranda is r...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 7:17 am
HappyBuddha   On closer examination of the pic, I notice the spl...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 7:24 am
kingyoo   Good eyesight! I didn't notice the split,...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 7:55 am
mountain   HB, i got 2 oranda, have splits also. You are neve...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 8:53 am
Hamad   I currently have an oranda with a very short body ...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 9:24 am
HappyBuddha   I didn't know you have orandas; never posted ...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:01 pm
HappyBuddha   They say the intense red on those Malaysian orand...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:03 pm
LASERGUY   Errr... Buddha, lower pH will darken your fishes ...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:09 pm
HappyBuddha   :blush You're right. It's the lower pH...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:41 pm
Hamad   Oh so that's why! I actually do find a lo...   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 3:28 pm
LASERGUY   Maintain at pH 7.0, may be ? Black, pH 6.8 ~ 6.9....   Tue, 27 Jan 2004 3:29 pm
kingyoo   Add magnesium sulfate (epsom salts) to your water...   Wed, 28 Jan 2004 1:34 am
HappyBuddha   I don't know what exactly GH is but would add...   Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:19 am
kingyoo   Epsom salt is NOT a salt, we just call it that. ...   Thu, 29 Jan 2004 2:35 am
HappyBuddha   Thank you my dear. I just spend some time read...   Thu, 29 Jan 2004 6:35 am
kingyoo   I believe most koi hobbiest keep their gH at abou...   Thu, 29 Jan 2004 8:00 am
CyberET   doesn't epsom salt works as a laxative as well...   Thu, 29 Jan 2004 8:35 am
kingyoo   Yes, epsom salt can be used as laxative for humans...   Thu, 29 Jan 2004 8:40 am
CyberET   i see.. hmMmm.. :D something new to play with 8-)   Thu, 29 Jan 2004 8:46 am
HappyBuddha   Okay, I've gotten a box of Epsom Salt from Gua...   Fri, 30 Jan 2004 3:41 pm
kingyoo   happybuddah sweetie, Thanks for finding the conve...   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:55 am
Hamad   So does that mean that with every water change I g...   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:23 pm
HappyBuddha   Indeed that's taxing, and expensive too! ...   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 3:25 pm
HappyBuddha   Back to fascinating orandas:- Black Oranda http:/...   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 9:12 pm
HappyBuddha   Blue Oranda http://www.chinagoldfish.com/pinzhong/...   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 9:16 pm
smgutie   LOL, when did this happen? so is it official?   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:06 pm
Hamad   Smgutie! Leave them alone!! LOL Any...   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:10 pm
smgutie   well, i cant say that i am racist about goldfish ...   Sat, 31 Jan 2004 11:32 pm
kingyoo   Tee hee..... my husband knows everything about me ...   Sun, 01 Feb 2004 2:31 am
CyberET   hehe.. i like the blue and calico i'm into uni...   Sun, 01 Feb 2004 3:57 am
HappyBuddha   The attached pictorial guide is based on Bristol A...   Sun, 22 Feb 2004 9:17 am
LASERGUY   Hi guys, still remember this picture of this Kuan ...   Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:59 pm
void   ya loh... si peh swee ah!! :good_very   Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:19 am
CyberET   hehe.. cute double chin :D   Mon, 23 Feb 2004 1:42 am
eddie   brother, can explained to me what does this mean ...   Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:37 pm
HappyBuddha   Caudal is the better known as the tails. Here...   Sat, 06 Mar 2004 8:34 am


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