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KokiBali |
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:36 pm
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Hi Bros and Sis,
My brother purchased these baby tosakin couples weeks ago, it starts changing colour now. Size about 3-4 cm (mouth to tail). All comments are welcome. Any advise in rearing them will be appreciated. Thanks, William. Fish #1 Fish #2 Fish #3 Fish #4 |
yamato38gunkei |
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 2:09 am
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Please excuse me for spoiling the fun a little. I think the quality of these Tosakin is not so good. As with Ranchu, the tail is very important for Tosakin. All these Tosakin have a bad tail.
Please look very carefully at the drawing that I post with this message. One of the important points is that the rear part of the tail should be wider than the part in the middle (the part before the tail starts to curl). All Tosakin have the middle part wider than the rear part. Also look at the sideview drawing. The line of the tail should be horizontal. All Tosakin on the photos have the line of the tail that is higher. This is why they swim with their head down. Heads should be longer and much more pointed. Bellies should be rounder. The body shape should be a triangle. I hope I do not disappoint you too much. I know there is almost no information available about Tosakin outside Japan. This is why it is not easy to keep and breed them. It is necessary to keep the Tosai in bowls without aeration. Do not feed them bloodworm. Regards, Geert Coppens Attached File(s) Tosakin_Standard_Drawing.pdf ( 61.59k ) Number of downloads: 649 |
KokiBali |
Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:46 am
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QUOTE(yamato38gunkei @ Wed, 22 Mar 2006 1:09 am) Please excuse me for spoiling the fun a little. I think the quality of these Tosakin is not so good. As with Ranchu, the tail is very important for Tosakin. All these Tosakin have a bad tail. .... Regards, Geert Coppens Hi, Geert. Thanks a lot for your comment, it is really enlighten me. Unfortunately, I can not open the PDF file (got scrambled text). Could you please send it by e-mail to williamd@hotpop.com? Regarding the bowl, how big (diameter and height) is ideal for keeping 6 tosai tosakins? I heard that the water level should be 25 cm max. How about the water ratio, is it same as ranchu (80 ltr/fish)? Regarding the feeding, why bloodworm is not recommended? Is it because live or frozen food is not safe? Is there any special food for tosakin or Hikari Lionhead is good enough? Appreciate your advise. Thanks, William. |
yamato38gunkei |
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:57 am
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QUOTE(KokiBali @ Wed, 22 Mar 2006 3:46 am) Hi, Geert. Thanks a lot for your comment, it is really enlighten me. Unfortunately, I can not open the PDF file (got scrambled text). Could you please send it by e-mail to williamd@hotpop.com? Regarding the bowl, how big (diameter and height) is ideal for keeping 6 tosai tosakins? I heard that the water level should be 25 cm max. How about the water ratio, is it same as ranchu (80 ltr/fish)? Regarding the feeding, why bloodworm is not recommended? Is it because live or frozen food is not safe? Is there any special food for tosakin or Hikari Lionhead is good enough? Appreciate your advise. Thanks, William. Hello William, Here are some photos of the typical Tosakin Bowls. These bowls have a diametre of 55 cm. In these bowls, you can keep 10 to 15 Baby Tosakin (2-3 cm), 3 to 4 Tosai Tosakin or 2 to 3 Nisai Tosakin. A 100 % water change has to be done every day. Regards, Geert Coppens |
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