Green Water In Bio-filter Setup, Is it possible? Options

[desireless]

Is that sponge filter? You shouldn't have bio-filters in your greenwater. It defeats the purpose of using green water and the bio setup will compete nutrients with the green water algae. Let the algae do the job of removing the fishes' waste.

[goldrush]

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Is that sponge filter? You shouldn't have bio-filters in your greenwater. It defeats the purpose of using green water and the bio setup will compete nutrients with the green water algae. Let the algae do the job of removing the fishes' waste.

Just curious from a biological stand point,can we achieve green water in bio-filter setup?In theory it may seems illogical but can the two system co exist in harmony as an example of competitive inclusion rather than a competitive exclusion.You see what we want is actually elimination of ammonia which both systems do wonderfully.But as for green water there is a limitation and that is light which it needs to fulfil to consume any ammonia.So in hours of reduced light like today,the green water would be significantly reduced in its effect to eliminate any secreted ammonia.So if you can have a back up like a functioning bio-filter running in the presence of green water,wouldn't it achieve the best of both worlds in combating the same enemy. Think about it .....but I guess you need to achieve a totally biological, balance ecosystem to satisfy both to complement their harmonious existence.

For me I believe the 2 systems already coexisted the day any water is added to any pond even though you may not promote its existence.You see,these microscopic animacules can assume both free-floating or in bio-film.Now it is those that are attached as plagues or bio-films which adhere to surfaces that can start a satellite of microscopic existence,a city of self sufficiency,efficacy and harmony.Now these are attached to any surfaces(floor,wood,glass and even mulms)and assume respiration,reproduction,growth as in all life forms(higher or lower)So if it is a matter of encouraging a particular form of algae to eliminate ammonia which is of your main interest then aren't you depriving another which can equally be effective if not better in hours of darkness........


.Brain teasing???

goldrush

This post has been edited by CP: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 7:53 pm

[goldrush]

Yes agreed that you will have difficulty in initial kick start as there would be too little organic nutrients to sustain both parties.Perhaps you can assume green first before incorporating some biofilter to share the bioload once a certain greenery is achieved.Incidentally in planktonic organisms they have highly invoved in their mode of nutrition that they can switch from autotroph(create its own food)to heterotroph(requring organic nutrients)So if light is not available they can switch to feeding on organic nutrients.So photosynthesis may not occur in darkness or low light but nutrition is very much alive!!!!
So do not assume photosynthesis (hour of light)as the only process capable of reducing your nutrient bioload.


Until now I am still puzzled by stopping feeding at 2pm