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d_golem
post Sat, 24 Feb 2007 8:22 pm
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After reading recent shoutbox posts, I'm starting to question my belief that a goldfish tank must have at least 10x tank volume/hour filter flowrate. A prominent member of the forum suggested only 1x flowrate and claimed only uses 2 sponge filters in his 4 ft tank.

I can see the logic in having 10x flowrate as goldfish are messy fish, but after reading some posts here and seeing that most of you guys only use air pump powered sponge filters, now I have some doubts about the 10x theory. Is that amount of flowrate really required to allow efficient filtration? Or is it only good for debris/poop control? Do simple air pump powered sponge filters provide adequate surface area for bacteria to grow to handle the amount of waste that goldfish produce?

Say u got two 200-litre tank. One is using 2 canisters with total flowrate of 2000l/h. One is using two large-sized sponge filters. Which one do you prefer?

I'm really interested in what the expert bros say.

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post Sun, 25 Feb 2007 8:19 pm
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its more of increasing contact time between the bacteria, and the water. high flow rate tries to solve it by doing it many times, slow sponge filter slowly filters and makes sure everything gets done.

of course other factors like dissolved oxygen plays a part.

one main reason why a number of us uses sponge filter, is the ease of cleaning. i tried canister, and i hate the cleaning process.

the other reason is the water turbulence that high flow rate creates. delicate varients like bubble eyes may turn into burst eyes @ the water flow inlet.
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post Sun, 25 Feb 2007 8:51 pm
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QUOTE(CyberET @ Sun, 25 Feb 2007 9:19 pm) *

one main reason why a number of us uses sponge filter, is the ease of cleaning. i tried canister, and i hate the cleaning process.

I agree with you on that. I love my canister, but hate the cleaning part tongue.gif

QUOTE(CyberET @ Sun, 25 Feb 2007 9:19 pm) *

its more of increasing contact time between the bacteria, and the water. high flow rate tries to solve it by doing it many times, slow sponge filter slowly filters and makes sure everything gets done.

Hmm....
So take my hypothetical canister filter and the sponge filter that both got the same X amount of bacterial growth area, both fully colonised. Put each in two tanks wiht identical volume. Add the same X amount of pure ammonia in both tanks. Will the canistered tank show nitrates faster? Will the end result be the same?

PS: Thx for your patience in answering my q's smile.gif

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d_golem   Flowrate Of Filter In goldfish Tank   Sat, 24 Feb 2007 8:22 pm
small_ranchu   :worried :yes   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:57 am
gerrard8   After reading recent shoutbox posts, I'm star...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 1:38 am
The Matrix   i use green water in most tubs. no filter, rather ...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 2:05 am
gohks   No hard and fuss rule about filtration. For me if...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 9:48 am
CyberET   its about whats dissolved in the water, not what u...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 3:39 pm
d_golem   higher flow rate just provide faster mechnical fi...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 7:36 pm
egwinh   for those who concern about poop, you might want t...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 5:21 pm
CyberET   its more of increasing contact time between the ba...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 8:19 pm
d_golem   one main reason why a number of us uses sponge fi...   Sun, 25 Feb 2007 8:51 pm
CyberET   hehe, i can't tell you, because theres no way ...   Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:11 am
gohks   We are trying to compare 2 different products here...   Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:29 pm
The Matrix   just a question : Since one type does not "s...   Mon, 26 Feb 2007 1:23 pm
gerrard8   izzit a must to have 2type of filtration system??a...   Mon, 26 Feb 2007 3:40 pm
The Matrix   izzit a must to have 2type of filtration system??...   Mon, 26 Feb 2007 5:24 pm
gohks   How to tell your filtration is enough? My view is...   Mon, 26 Feb 2007 4:18 pm
gerrard8   anyway,i got the 2 box filter up and running in my...   Tue, 27 Feb 2007 1:40 am


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