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post Sat, 10 Apr 2004 7:36 pm
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peace.gif Halo all bros here,me newbie to goldfish.Kindly gv ur comments pls.
Good or bad r welcome.

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post Thu, 15 Apr 2004 7:09 pm
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QUOTE(Absolute Ranchu @ Thu 15 Apr 2004 05:58 PM)
In most closed system, it is one form or another a green water system. The pond or tank that are in direct sunlight is also a green water system. Most of the koi keeper will use the vortex system (real expensive but most effective with all size of waste particles) but they will hardly do anything inside the pond.

Green water generates lots of bacteria, good and bad. I find that when the water starts to have too much bacteria, something bad always happen. Fin rot, stomach problem, lost of appetite, and colors for example. The system needs to be very complete when it comes to recycling the water, if the filtration system is not big enough for the pond (false of most amateur pond builders and tank keepers who build or buy the tank themselves without consulting any professional) the system becomes a breeding ground for bacteria, and that can only lead to trouble. If your set up is right on, then maintainance is very limited. This is the biggest risk I associate with green water system. The good bacteria that I added in the pond does nothing negative to the fish. They do not even use oxygen so you can be completely sure. Bacterial also helps reduce the risk in association with the "I Am Lazy Today Syndrome".

Thank you very much for all your kind words, especially the title of goldfish farmer. That made me feel very proud to be called that. We have worked very hard to be a good example for the other goldfish farmers in the market here to make them embrace the idea and pride in breeding quality fish rather than the amount of money they can make from breeding fish.

Ranchu has always been a closed tradition for the elite of society since it's conception in China and Japan. I believe that in the new age of globalization, the only sure way to glorify our beloved fish is to share the fish and the knowledge with the whole world. And when we all become experience fish keeper, there will be beautiful fish every where. That's not at all bad.

Sawasdee krap

why when the water has too much bacteria, something bad happens?

how do u know what bacteria u r adding specifically, and it doesn't use oxygen at all?

if too much bacteria and something will happen, then y r u adding bacteria?
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sushiman   My Setup - Sushiman   Sat, 10 Apr 2004 7:36 pm
mountain   i like your fish, but unfortunately if u are askin...   Sat, 10 Apr 2004 8:29 pm
Seacucumber   sushi, overcrowded liao.... 3 fish per tank at the...   Sat, 10 Apr 2004 9:18 pm
RBT   sushi,when pics taken ? date on photo 1.1.2003??(n...   Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:19 am
HappyBuddha   I love the Ranchu tanks! Could 3-tiers be p...   Sun, 11 Apr 2004 4:01 pm
ah boy   Hi Like you set-up!!! You fishes look...   Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:02 pm
Seacucumber   wai yip, canister filter is not advisable.... many...   Mon, 12 Apr 2004 5:50 pm
Jos Nana   Suggest you read up the whole forum first. Cann...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 2:09 am
Absolute Ranchu   I use the sponge filter like the one if the pictur...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:30 am
square_guy   Pat, I know you follow the thai way of keeping fis...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:47 am
Absolute Ranchu   I also use green water in my ponds and some of my ...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:56 am
caster   Hi The discussion is getting interesting...I am ...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:32 am
square_guy   What do you mean that there are more bacterias an...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:19 pm
CyberET   now i know y thai fishes r more expensive than chi...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 1:10 pm
Absolute Ranchu   In Japanese system, new water will continue to be...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 3:39 pm
CyberET   my, thats alot of work i try to keep my fish keepi...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 4:30 pm
mountain   Pat, i like reading your posts. I am relatively n...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 5:04 pm
chanB   Pat, Thanks for the detail info. on farm operatio...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 5:13 pm
HappyBuddha   Hear hear!   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 5:19 pm
square_guy   Happy New Year :) Thank you for your insights. Y...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 6:14 pm
desireless   Probably, it is back to the question of "Se...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 6:26 pm
HappyBuddha   There's always the option to rotate your fish...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 9:50 pm
chanB   HB, you idea is good, no point keeping solid ranc...   Tue, 13 Apr 2004 9:57 pm
sushiman   Yo,thanks all the bros for all the precious commen...   Wed, 14 Apr 2004 8:17 pm
mountain   Hi, do take note that sponge (heavily recommended ...   Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:04 pm
CyberET   rotate to wash the sponge once a month in a pail o...   Thu, 15 Apr 2004 4:55 pm
Absolute Ranchu   I have posted a few in the Yahoo Group Photoshop....   Thu, 15 Apr 2004 5:39 pm
CyberET   i believe HB doesn't mine to spare a few KBs, ...   Thu, 15 Apr 2004 5:46 pm
Absolute Ranchu   In most closed system, it is one form or another ...   Thu, 15 Apr 2004 5:58 pm
caster   hi.... could u email to me your HP or contact nu...   Thu, 15 Apr 2004 6:05 pm
Absolute Ranchu   I am sending you my contact info right now. Look ...   Thu, 15 Apr 2004 6:22 pm
CyberET   why when the water has too much bacteria, somethi...   Thu, 15 Apr 2004 7:09 pm
sushiman   :blush sori bro mountain & cyberet,what do u m...   Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:44 pm
Seacucumber   wat they mean is that if u use 2 sponge filter, e...   Sat, 17 Apr 2004 1:30 pm
mountain   Week 1 : Sponge A and Sponge B in tank Week 2 : Sp...   Sat, 17 Apr 2004 1:44 pm
Seacucumber   :longpia   Sat, 17 Apr 2004 1:58 pm
sushiman   :P yo,very paiseh leh.I got i t now.Thanks a lot. ...   Sat, 17 Apr 2004 5:07 pm
Absolute Ranchu   The bacteria sold all have similar characteristic...   Sat, 17 Apr 2004 5:34 pm
CyberET   what's the name of this product ? need to fin...   Sun, 18 Apr 2004 11:37 am
Absolute Ranchu   Most of the product I use come from Whitecrane com...   Sun, 18 Apr 2004 4:50 pm
Absolute Ranchu   We also have a very large and friendly Golden at ...   Sun, 18 Apr 2004 4:55 pm
CyberET   any comments on food containing lysine?   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 5:40 am
CyberET   mine love to sleep under the car, and when i...   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 5:43 am
Absolute Ranchu   Not a clue, please kindly illuminate. :lol   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 1:24 pm
Absolute Ranchu   Our Annie (part Golden, part Crazy Scott Terrier)...   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 1:28 pm
CyberET   nothing, was looking at the ingredients, and comp...   Mon, 19 Apr 2004 5:43 pm


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