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post Sun, 16 May 2004 2:47 pm
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QUOTE(jowy_ham @ Sun 16 May 2004 01:34 PM)
And what's the reason for max airflow ? I thou BB cannot withstand too high water current ?

I'm quite sure BB can withstand the current generated by a sponge filter. Afterall, the current is relatively weak compared to that inside a typical OHF where many owners often proudly brag about flow rate of thousands of litres per hour! ohmy.gif

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By over-stocking, maybe we are putting in 2-3 GFs per 100 litres, therefore we would need a higher amount of BB to break down all the waste generated but does this perception/assumption really works ?

You assumed correctly; just cultivate more BB to accomodate an overstocked tank. It implies as you add more fish, all you need to do is add more filters.

Unfortunately, this view is seriously flawed.

You overlooked one fact about the nitrogen cycle. Although you can convert more ammonia (produced by higher fish load) by adding more filtration, the end result is you get more nitrate. Although relatively harmless compared to ammonia, long term exposure to high nitrate concentration (in excess of 10-25 [some say 50] ppm) is said to stunt your fish.

So now with high stock level and more filtration, you need a way to get rid of nitrate. Although you can add plants which takes in nitrate as nutrients, the best way is to change water to discard the nitrate laiden water.

So your answer as to how do hdb dwellers keep overstocked goldfish tank can be sum up as "change water frequently". biggrin.gif

You can read up about the accumulative nature of nitrate in the excellent article, My Journey with Nitrates. I hope you will comprehen it fully and come to the conclusion that the way things go, sparsely stocked tank filtered by sponge filters accompanied by diligent water change is the only way to go if you don't just want to keep your goldfish alive but to groom and let it grow to its maximum potential.

And finally I want to add one thing about the need to keep lots of goldfish...

Do ask yourself why is there a need to keep so many goldfish to the extend you know you're overstocking your tank? Wouldn't keeping an amount that you can manage (50-100 litres per fish) be better? I'm quite sure it's fun and exciting to have 45 dogs and puppies in your living room. But I hope you'll have enough time to bath them, feed them, walk them etc. In any case, your 45 pets will probably not be healthy or at their best form becoz you only have that much time and money to spend on your pet.

But of course, I know you'll have better sense and max out at maybe 2 doggies if you live in a flat. Thank goodness for common sense.

So why not apply the same thot when you keep goldfish in your 4 feet tank? unsure.gif
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HappyBuddha   Getting Rid Of Nitrate   Sun, 16 May 2004 2:47 pm
white horse T1   i read sq guy thread at AF on nitrate. last wee...   Sun, 16 May 2004 3:15 pm
mountain   yur tank prob got nitrate readings higher than 100...   Sun, 16 May 2004 3:49 pm
HappyBuddha   This is for whtan... 100 ppm of nitrate is way o...   Sun, 16 May 2004 4:52 pm
HappyBuddha   ... if it really works without any harmful by-pro...   Sun, 16 May 2004 5:00 pm
white horse T1   HB okie got it, for a moment i tot u school lect...   Sun, 16 May 2004 9:04 pm
white horse T1   day 0 after performing a 30% water change and bef...   Mon, 17 May 2004 11:15 am
white horse T1   day 2 gosh ! up to 40 ppm in one day.....   Mon, 17 May 2004 9:44 pm
mountain   bio-load + the amount of feeding can contribute to...   Mon, 17 May 2004 11:27 pm
RBT   Just a show case: got one day not toooo long ago ...   Tue, 18 May 2004 12:05 am
YLD   HB, i just wish to confirm. Ranchu with big/pro...   Tue, 18 May 2004 1:12 am
HappyBuddha   I'm betting today (day 3) the nitrate level w...   Tue, 18 May 2004 6:53 am
HappyBuddha   Kekeke. I guess the moral of the story is - besi...   Tue, 18 May 2004 6:57 am
HappyBuddha   In a nutshell the answer is yes. But I should ma...   Tue, 18 May 2004 7:12 am
HappyBuddha   This new topic is splitted out from:- http://www....   Sun, 16 May 2004 2:45 pm
leogon   For Koi keepers(who want crystal clear water), som...   Tue, 18 May 2004 9:55 am
YLD   I think 3 of my ranchu has big and protruding eye...   Tue, 18 May 2004 11:12 am
HappyBuddha   Unfortunately I don't think there's a cur...   Tue, 18 May 2004 1:28 pm
HappyBuddha   I didn't know we could use protein skimmer to...   Tue, 18 May 2004 1:38 pm
YLD   Thanx for the reply. Lesson learnt.   Tue, 18 May 2004 1:46 pm
Allan   Your stock load is definitely too high if your ni...   Tue, 18 May 2004 4:35 pm
white horse T1   Day 3 80 ppm. ouch! a. looks like plant i...   Tue, 18 May 2004 9:44 pm
GF Lover   After reading this thread, I got frighten and I we...   Wed, 19 May 2004 12:22 am
HappyBuddha   It's 10ppm higher than I predicted? Goosh...   Wed, 19 May 2004 8:56 am
HappyBuddha   What's your feeding pattern like? Good water...   Wed, 19 May 2004 8:59 am
white horse T1   did another 20% change again last night after see...   Wed, 19 May 2004 1:59 pm
white horse T1   hey i ve not given up yet. :peace will cover al...   Wed, 19 May 2004 4:48 pm
GF Lover   Hi HB. I have a 3 inches thick coral hip as my un...   Thu, 20 May 2004 6:40 am
mountain   coral chips have NO effect on Nitrate/Nitrite. Th...   Thu, 20 May 2004 8:12 am
square_guy   at 3" inch, the coral chips bed could possibl...   Thu, 20 May 2004 9:44 am
GF Lover   I will get an Ammonia test kit.   Thu, 20 May 2004 9:48 am
leogon   There is a product called Bacteria House being use...   Thu, 20 May 2004 9:53 am
white horse T1   all waste......inclusive of nitrate??   Thu, 20 May 2004 12:53 pm
greenhorn   Can locate the exact location in the web page. Can...   Thu, 20 May 2004 2:12 pm
HappyBuddha   Erm... what are you refering to? :) Sometimes i...   Thu, 20 May 2004 5:37 pm
GF Lover   Just went to Petmart and purchase the Sera Amonia ...   Thu, 20 May 2004 8:46 pm
leogon   I think Momotaro koi has a local agent here - MAX...   Thu, 20 May 2004 10:26 pm
leogon   251, Neo Tiew Crescent Singapore 718835 Phone: 68...   Thu, 20 May 2004 10:29 pm
white horse T1   hb, i goodboy alr. 1. change 80% of water last...   Fri, 21 May 2004 9:48 am
white horse T1   below is my planting campaign. this is one i bou...   Sat, 22 May 2004 2:38 pm
white horse T1   Planting campaign in sump with sechem de-nitrate ...   Sat, 22 May 2004 2:46 pm
white horse T1   chio boh? http://www.imagestash.com/uploads/8464...   Sat, 22 May 2004 2:52 pm
BlueBubble   How about nitrite?   Sun, 13 Jun 2004 2:11 am
square_guy   NO3 = nitrate   Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:05 am
BlueBubble   I mean NO2   Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:27 pm
Seacucumber   what do you guys think about my nitrate level if i...   Mon, 14 Jun 2004 8:00 am
white horse T1   40 ppm on the 7 days?   Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:43 am
mountain   depends on feeding rate . if frequent/heavy feedin...   Mon, 14 Jun 2004 1:24 pm
HappyBuddha   Why save 20% of the old water? What's in it ...   Mon, 14 Jun 2004 3:15 pm
mountain   G-string prob uses the sponge filters ... and it a...   Mon, 14 Jun 2004 3:46 pm
Seacucumber   let me tell you guys a shameful secret. I DUN USE...   Mon, 14 Jun 2004 9:21 pm
mountain   ORRRRR!!!!!!!!...   Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:27 pm
square_guy   hey man, i also colour blind leh. but i ask my wi...   Tue, 15 Jun 2004 9:25 am
Seacucumber   yeah! i am not alone.....hehehehe... my wife...   Tue, 15 Jun 2004 5:22 pm


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