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Consequences?  Lost of colour (as pointed out by our matrix) despite using "green water".

Normal green water's pH is above 8.0 during day time.  You can artificially up the pH of your green water by using Baking Soda.  Go as high as 6-8dkH.

You took the two nitrate tests how far a part?  I would like to see you do daily test for 7 days if possible (your new test kit will expire in less than one month anyway so... put it to good use.  )

My own test shows presence of nitrate but it is low and stay constant.  In a typical clear water bio-filered setup, the nitrate will accumulate daily.  Bio-green does not have this problem.

Test was taken about 1 hr apart.
Will do daily test, hopefully bros here can help me solve problem.
BTW, how to make the filter work?

[The Matrix]

PH : 6.5
Added BS immediately, but slowly as HB had mention.

Nitrate same
PH : 7.5

peng you eh, u change your pH from below 7 to above 7 using BS hor, not really good to your fish. No wonder your tub got green water. your filteration system is likely running at very low efficiency, thus green water kick in to take over the filtering.

Go do a 80-90% change and restart everything.

Monitor your pH daily for the next few days.

either u go 100% green water or 100% filter ... have a thought over it.

at low pH, your fish is unlikely to develop well.

with such overloaded tub, do more frequent change.

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peng you eh, u change your pH from below 7 to above 7 using BS hor, not really good to your fish. No wonder your tub got green water. your filteration system is likely running at very low efficiency, thus green water kick in to take over the filtering.

Go do a 80-90% change and restart everything.

Monitor your pH daily for the next few days.

either u go 100% green water or 100% filter ... have a thought over it.

at low pH, your fish is unlikely to develop well.

with such overloaded tub, do more frequent change.

peng you ah,
As I've posted before. My intention was actually to have filtration without green water in this tub.(I have green water in another 4 tub to rotate fishes)
As I've also mentioned, green water just keep coming back?
So thats why I've also asked for opinion earlier on how to make filtration more efficient and stop green water.
As for the adding of BS immediately was due to shock realising PH was so low and not knowing what to do. Started going trough some old post and saw that advise.
Will do a 100% change tomorrow and wash up filter thoroughtly to start all over again.
But at the mean time can the "peng yous" here tell me how to make filter run fully and stop green water. Dont want another heart attack!
As for the overload, I will put the lompang fish back to their tub.
Probably, my black baby have to start swimming in a rice cooker

[CyberET]

just do 90% water change, and remember to add BS this time..

without sufficient buffering capacity, pH drops into the acidic range as time pass.., and the BB goes to sleep

use a test kit for kH to find out how much u need to add to reach 4dKh, and how fast it depletes as well.. right buddha?

after you've done that.. its a waiting game for your filter to mature, which can take a month..

meanwhile.. watch the ammonia and nitrite levels, and adjust your feeding/water changes accordingly..

[The Matrix]

peng you ah,
As I've posted before. My intention was actually to have filtration without green water in this tub.(I have green water in another 4 tub to rotate fishes)
As I've also mentioned, green water just keep coming back?
So thats why I've also asked for opinion earlier on how to make filtration more efficient and stop green water.
As for the adding of BS immediately was due to shock realising PH was so low and not knowing what to do. Started going trough some old post and saw that advise.
Will do a 100% change tomorrow and wash up filter thoroughtly to start all over again.
But at the mean time can the "peng yous" here tell me how to make filter run fully and stop green water. Dont want another heart attack!
As for the overload, I will put the lompang fish back to their tub.
Probably, my black baby have to start swimming in a rice cooker

how filter works depends on how u want it to work. not just buy some expensive stuffs and plug in the power. anyway, sponge filter very efficient liao. cheap nice and good.

when u restart everything, reduce feeding for the next few days. or u try to shield off the sun light till the filter mature. 1001 ways for u to experience.

ET told u wat u should do liao. Give it a try. Short term, if still overloaded tub, green water will continue to come back unless u reduce feeding.

anyway, still black babies ??? greenish tint should be fading and grow about a cm by now.

[HappyBuddha]

The presence of nitrate shows the filter is working.

As a bio-filtered setup, it's working great since the overstocked pond is able to get such impressively low nitrate count.

Keeping everything the same, ie, the stock level, the sunlight etc, except stopping the filter system completely, this green water setup will fail miserably becoz it's too small (which is actually very big for most HDB dwellers). Adding the bio-filteration allows him to stock-up.... even extend the water change interval, ie, a great setup for newbies.

Hoot me.

[HappyBuddha]

just do 90% water change, and remember to add BS this time..

without sufficient buffering capacity, pH drops into the acidic range as time pass.., and the BB goes to sleep

use a test kit for kH to find out how much u need to add to reach 4dKh, and how fast it depletes as well.. right buddha?

after you've done that.. its a waiting game for your filter to mature, which can take a month..

meanwhile.. watch the ammonia and nitrite levels, and adjust your feeding/water changes accordingly..

If the intension is to get rid of green water, then a 100% water change is the way to go. Changing 90% is seeding 10%, a massive seed even for a green water setup!

... and use a more efficient bio media. I believe Japanese Mat are meant for kois with large-size wastes. Go to LFS and ask for BioHome.

... and if you have existing filter in another tank, use some of its biomedia to kick start the new ones to shorten the cycling period.

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Last taken before water change.
PH : 7.5
nitrate : 10

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After 2 hrs of hard work and half hr waiting before fish added.
This time 4 of them. (the original 4)
Reading after 1.5 hr after water change.
KH : 4
PH 7.8
Is everything fine?

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how filter works depends on how u want it to work. not just buy some expensive stuffs and plug in the power. anyway, sponge filter very efficient liao. cheap nice and good.

Bro, I dont believe in expensive is good philosophy too.
Just buy what I think is correct. Might end up wrong thou?

[The Matrix]

Just buy what I think is correct. Might end up wrong thou?

Well, give it a thought ... what does filtration do ?

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Something's wrong!!!
Fish now floating and stone!!!
SOS!!!

[white horse T1]

Last taken before water change.
PH : 7.5
nitrate : 10

strange, yr filter looks really clean even in green water.

Something's wrong!!!
Fish now floating and stone!!!
SOS!!!

did u gradually introduce them slowly to clear water let in a smaller tub first? and let them adjust to new temp and water condition?

[HappyBuddha]

Something's wrong!!!
Fish now floating and stone!!!
SOS!!!

Since you just changed water, something is obviously wrong with it.

So, prepare a new tub filled with duly dechlorinated water. Make sure the water temp is the same or a little higher (but never lower), and transfer the fishes in immediately.

Aerate the new tub well (strong enough but don't let the fish get suck and struggle around to the bubbling water). Raise the salinity to 0.5%.

Observe the fishes.

I could think of two reason what happened.

1. They are experiencing pH shock; they'll get over it in a hour if left in the same water.

2. Way too much ammonia released from your dead BB; thoroughly clean the filter media.

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strange, yr filter looks really clean even in green water.

My last change was last Thursday.


did u gradually introduce them slowly to clear water let in a smaller tub first?  and let them adjust to new temp and water condition?

I made sure the temp was same b4 transfer?
Thats what I do every change.
Even b4 change transfer.

My last change was last Thursday.

I made sure the temp was same b4 transfer?
Thats what I do every change.
Even b4 change transfer.