Is JRL better then Hikari Lionhead?, Split from Topic No 1298 Options

[HappyBuddha]

I tried Hikari Lionhead before but felt that the pellet is very hard. The goldfish seems to have a hard time chewing them.

Give the Lionhead pellets a try again. It's by far the best and most popular pellets for us goldfish lovers. If your fishes didn't eat them at first last time, just starve them a day or two and they'll chomp the pellets down this time. The pellets is not hard to chew at all...

Whatever pellets u used, dont buy the Qian Hu goldfish pellets. Sucks. Pour it in my food timer and the next day i can squeezed flat the pellets. Only one day in the food timer and the pellets "leaked" air liao.

Grin. Beside the lionhead and other branded pellets, I actually feed OceanFree's Special Fish Food pellets to all my fishy as snack. These pellets has crude proteins of just 30% ... so my fishes don't get fat eating junk food between regular meals.

[jowy_ham]

hello jowy ham

Photosynthetic bacteria, (PSB)comprising ... this answer to your question on what is PSB.
regards

Wow, U champion

Thanks for the info.

[patang]

Wow, U champion   

Thanks for the info. 

Well I just bought Japan Ranchu Lord 200g pack at $17 at clementi 328 2 days ago, I dunno why people still say the price is at $20???

[Seacucumber]

you are right....those you bought are the latest shipment.....tats why $17 liao...

initially it was $16, den shoot up to $20 and now drop to $17......
understand?? heehee

[HappyBuddha]

Just curious... anyone here feed their goldfish exclusively on JRL?

[yamato38gunkei]

Just curious... anyone here feed their goldfish exclusively on JRL? 

I do !!!!!

Regards,

Geert Coppens

[Seacucumber]

I do !!!!!

Regards,

Geert Coppens

[The Matrix]

Just curious... anyone here feed their goldfish exclusively on JRL? 

for certain type of fish, yes I also exclusively on JRL around 2.5 pack a month. Some exclusively on worms.

[nobnoba]

matrix,
you have goldfish that are fed with JRL and others that are fed with worms? any noticable differences among the gfs?

[The Matrix]

matrix,
you have goldfish that are fed with JRL and others that are fed with worms? any noticable differences among the gfs?

some are ranchu, some are dragon eyes, some are pearls and some are ryukins.
Sorry har, I dun just keep ranchu.

JRL, good food for some fish, not good for others.
Body mass build up nicely, wen not too bad.

Geert's ranchu are great examples of JRL result. Still need to go any further ?

[HappyBuddha]

I do !!!!!

Regards,

Geert Coppens

I regret asking because now prices of JRL in Singapore will sky rocket (again.) Kekeke.

In your "Food - Grow Series & Fine Fish Food Series" article, you mentioned (and losely translated here) "fish that ate pellets using wheat flour as binder produces sticky poo. The sticky poos pollutes the water dangerously. Food which the fish can fully digest are quickly broken down by BB." I can't agree more when I have noticed feeding my fishes frozen bloodworms produces very different kind of poos compared to feeding them Hikari Lionhead. The most obvious is the water don't turn bad as quickly. But until I read your mentioned article, I didn't know pellets like JRL and the Chanko series don't use Wheat Flour as binder. Nevertheless, since I find JRL and Chanko expensive (Chanko is not even available locally), I opted to feed frozen bloodworms to my priced fishes instead.

What's your opinion on feeding exclusively bloodworms? I ask because I never read you mentionining you ever feed bloodworm and I have been wondering why.

Also, please tell me what is "voedingstoffen". Thanks.

[goldrush]

Good morning bros

I cannot help but join in this feeding frenzy and I’m not surprised by the overwhelming response and attention given to this topic.Which food,what form and how often are our critical questions cracking our brains out to pacify our insatiable craving for the correct nutritional requirement of our beloved pets.Ultimately there is no conclusive answers but rather controversial,yet confusing feedbacks are the mainstays.

My question is to find an optimal diet not an adequate one.Then what is an optimal diet? I would conjecture that goldfish seem to do best on a fairly high protein diet, similar to that recommended for Koi and food carp. Goldfish needs vary with age and the season of the year. You can't feed the same food from birth to death, and hope for the best.Let us not be mesmerized by the myriads of names and brands avaliable in the market but get to the basics.If you have yearlings growing or a breeding pair choose a reputable high protein feed.If you have adult fish,oyas and matured fish choose feeds that are easily digestible like wheatgerm based.Too much of a good thing is never and will never be beneficial to fish nor humanToo much protein will lead to a lot of ammonia and partially digested protein wastes, and, if the human case can be used as an analogy, possible kidney and liver ailments over the long term, though I would say that many very successful goldfish keepers feed mixes at the high ends of these ranges. It goes to show it is rather difficult to mix your feed to cater to different age groups and fulfil their requirements if you have mixed varieties,different sizes and assorted ages .????????

Thus each hobbyist must decides on his level of playing,,his time and space constraint for there can be no perfect diet that caters to all and will never be. In short, it seems appropriate that recommendations of specific nutrient levels in a diet should include all the main elements.(protein,fats,carbohydrates,fibers,vitamins bla bla bla….) So if someone tells you that you are feeding "too much protein", they also need to tell you what you should feed instead …………….


Cheers
Goldrush

[The Matrix]

Good morning bros

I cannot help but join in this feeding frenzy and I’m not surprised  by the overwhelming  response and  attention given to this topic.Which  food,what form and how often are our critical questions cracking our brains out to pacify our insatiable craving for the correct  nutritional requirement of our beloved pets.Ultimately there is no conclusive answers but rather controversial,yet confusing feedbacks are the mainstays.

My question is to find an optimal diet not an adequate one.Then what is an optimal diet?

Solid !
Like fries, we utilised bbs, daphnia, watever small, tiny, high nutrition value to make them grow. As they grow bigger, these tiny food become difficult for them to hunt around and worst unable to fill their stomach. Commercial food become the next best thing to use, be it worms or processed dried food.

Our local keepers are pampered by the varieties our local importers brought in. Instead of becoming a good thing, it can turn aweful. We are so comfortable with these commercial food that has printed on wonderful nutrition composition.

Doesn't one wonder how the chinese produce by millions, export by millions yet, what food are they using to create our choice of fish in our home. Or maybe the Japanese or even the Thais which have their own choice of food. Economically, it will be unwise for them to use such expensive dried food. So what did they used instead ? Don't tell me their food not good leh. Maybe it's not variable for us to produce it at home.

Do human also have an optimum diet ? Neh ... unless I going for Olympic 2008. I still want my bowl of laksa. It's dynamic, one meal chicken rice, another lor mee, maybe go for a nice steak .... problem - we control what we eat, we eat when we need.

Fish ? Human controls what these creatures eat, they eat when human (or machines) feed.

Food is only a small factor in fish keeping.

[CP]

Seven types of food for my goldfish - Hikari Lionhead,Chroma,Superfin Colour Enhancer,frozen bloodworms,live tubifex,peas and duckweed.
One type of milk powder for my son - Nespray

I SOMETIMES WONDER IF I HAVE MY PRIORITIES RIGHT!

Pellets and bloodworms are daily,the rest once a week.Theory :
Hikari - The staple diet
Chroma - High protein for growth
S Colour Enhancer - No prizes for guessing
Bloodworms - Because LFS owners say so
Live Tubifex - For growth and fibre
Peas - Vitamins and fibre,encourages poo,clears system
Duckweed - Fibre and colouration

They come with different poo types too :
Hikari - Brown,compact,lenght averaging 1 inch.
Chroma - Yet to see Chroma poo.Sudden bursts like diaorrhea except that it is in white powdery form
S Colour - Result like Hikari
Bloodworms - Red globule forms,not lenghty
Live tubifex - Soft and lenghty initially,fine and dispersed in the later stages
Peas - Most beautiful poo.Light green
Duckweed - Feed this if you want to enter the longest poo competition.Dark green and soft.

I wonder how many here enjoy watching fish poo as much as I do.

[The Matrix]

I wonder how many here enjoy watching fish poo as much as I do.

Immediate I name 1 ... hahahahaha ... HB ..