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desireless
post Thu, 02 Mar 2006 1:52 am
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CP is correct. Green water and Wall Algae have different setup and they work differently. Only similarity is that you must have a strong light source. Of course, the best choice is Sunlight. Else, MH light will do. Worst case, use a PL light or T5.

The wall algae is good for removing nitrate. You'll still need to have a working bio filtration to remove ammonia and convert ammonia to nitrate (for the algae). Green water on the other hand works better on ammonia and nitrate. Given a choice I will still prefer green water but this is a display tank so I adopt the Wall Algae method. At this time, it is still experimental for me. I do not want to mislead members - I DO NOT see this as a permanent solution.

Basically, I have doubts with benefits of wall algae on goldfish (as compared to green water). But the thing is it looks kinda cool nananana.gif

PS: Yes I agree it works work on nitrate (a problem for clear-tank hobbyists), but I figure that's about all biggrin.gif So far I have yet to read a trustful document on benefits of Wall algae
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post Thu, 02 Mar 2006 1:58 am
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QUOTE(ranchu8 @ Thu, 02 Mar 2006 1:02 am)
hi Desireless, do you have the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate readings, with the algae and without the algae, just before you change the water pls?
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Hi Lawrence,

I've just tested the water. It is important to note that it has been 8 hours after the light went off (on timer). And it has been about 10 days since I last last changed the water.

The nitrate reading for the water now is 40ppm. I will need to take the reading again when light is on. The reading should be lesser then. My Seachem ammonia kit indicated yellow, meaning safe. It should be very small amount since I am sure my sponge filters are working perfectly biggrin.gif
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post Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:08 am
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Carpet Algae! Pics taken today.

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QUOTE(desireless @ Thu, 02 Mar 2006 1:52 am)
CP is correct. Green water and Wall Algae have different setup and they work differently. Only similarity is that you must have a strong light source. Of course, the best choice is Sunlight.  Else, MH light will do. Worst case, use a PL light or T5.

The wall algae is good for removing nitrate. You'll still need to have a working bio filtration to remove ammonia and convert ammonia to nitrate (for the algae). Green water on the other hand works better on ammonia and nitrate. Given a choice I will still prefer green water but this is a display tank so I adopt the Wall Algae method. At this time, it is still experimental for me. I do not want to mislead members - I DO NOT see this as a permanent solution.

Basically, I have doubts with benefits of wall algae on goldfish (as compared to green water). But the thing is it looks kinda cool  nananana.gif

PS: Yes I agree it works work on nitrate (a problem for clear-tank hobbyists), but I figure that's about all biggrin.gif So far I have yet to read a trustful document on benefits of Wall algae
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My experience with green water was inconclusive; I could not see any tangible improvements in my fish. However, from your gallery, one can see the improvements in your fish after soaking them in green water. Which was what inspired me to try out green water in the first place.

The effect of wall algae was more visible but it was only noticed in one fish, out of a batch of 4.

Just to elaborate...my fish are now housed in a rental pond as I could not find the space to put in a 4 ft tank in my new home.

I will follow up with some pictures next week, when I visit my fish this weekend.

By the way, the fish in your avatar is a beauty...inspiring stuff...its SV ranchus for me..
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post Thu, 02 Mar 2006 6:38 pm
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PP, you should give it more time. If you want a conclusive experiment, you need to have 2 similar fishes and subject them to 2 different environment. Then see the results in about 3 months' time. If you're unable to do that then believe what Vermillion Club has to say about outdoor green water. Being a premium goldfish club, they have the credibility to make statements as such (benefits of green water).
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Anyway Lawrence, I measured the nitrate level when the light was on. The reading was 20ppm.
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post Fri, 03 Mar 2006 1:04 am
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Thanks Desireless, these carpet algae sure takes in the nitrates well smile.gif
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QUOTE(top_view_ranchu @ Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:08 am)
Carpet Algae! Pics taken today.


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Hey David... really impressive! beg2.gif beg2.gif

hey... jus curious... do you use a filter or jus only bubbles!
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post Fri, 03 Mar 2006 2:15 pm
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QUOTE(aronkhj @ Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:36 pm)
Hey David... really impressive!  beg2.gif  beg2.gif

hey... jus curious... do you use a filter or jus only bubbles!
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Hi Aron,
Only 1 air stone in tub.
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Hi Aron,
Only 1 air stone in tub.
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How frequent do you change water?
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David,
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Hi ball,
Every 4, maximum 5 days.
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Hi ball,
Every 4, maximum 5 days.
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100%? Only two fishes in the tub?
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100%? Only two fishes in the tub?
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Yup 100%, only 2 fish.
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QUOTE(top_view_ranchu @ Sat, 04 Mar 2006 4:31 am)
Yup 100%, only 2 fish.
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100% water change? how bout the technique of maitaining 10% green water from the previous posting on green water?
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QUOTE(chochiss @ Sat, 04 Mar 2006 3:13 pm)
100% water change? how bout the technique of maitaining 10% green water from the previous posting on green water?
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I think that's for greenwater, not green carpet algae.

U have to change 100% of the water for green carpet algae set up or nothing's gonna remove the ammonia & nitrite
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