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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 9:26 pm
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QUOTE(CyberET @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 8:32 pm)
hehehehe.. a single sucker can handle my 4ton pond.. what do u think? grow until the size of my biggest koi.. 50cm tongue.gif
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For my case a 2 inch pleco is doing the job for my 7 footer.Problem is most of them when they grow larger tends to bully the goldfishes so when that happens I just discard them and replace with a new smaller one. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(desireless @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:15 pm)
- Anti-Chlorine AND Anti-Chloramine solution. Genesis is good. $3.80 at Darwin
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bro,
i ve one strange death just today after a water change on sat.
fishes all grasping for air on sunday and monday, but tot they are hungry.
similar to last time when i was away for 3 days. the only same action i did was dose with 30 drops of genesis........in abt 100 litres of water.
and in green water.

my immediate action save 2 fishes but one died.

could it be overdose of genesis??
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:34 pm
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is it a new bottle? if not could be your fresh water is contaminated. i.e. soap. it happened to old man once ..
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:46 pm
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Hi experts;
Just done something to my tank and fishes.
Got the below item:



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Looks like small bits of charcoal. But however, not active charcoal. Stated at the box <<Ammonia --> 0>> Is this all that i need to do to remove Ammonia? 0 Ammonia = everything ok? So simple?

Do i need anything to stabilise pH?
Sorry, please teach...

QUOTE(mountain @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:34 pm)
is it a new bottle? if not could be your fresh water is contaminated. i.e. soap. it happened to old man once ..
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QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 5:46 pm)
He's not bad la...
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he's good....
i suaning him mah....
kekekekeke japanese master...
Ken Ichiro....
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:08 pm
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Dear All;
My tank...
Feel free to comment...





QUOTE(Seacucumber @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:01 pm)
he's good....
i suaning him mah....
kekekekeke japanese master...
Ken Ichiro....
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:12 pm
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QUOTE(white horse T1 @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:27 pm)
bro,
i ve one strange death just today after a water change on sat.
fishes all grasping for air on sunday and monday, but tot they are hungry.
similar to last time when i was away for 3 days.  the only same action i did was dose with 30 drops of genesis........in abt 100 litres of water. 
and in green water.

my immediate action save 2 fishes but one died.

could it be overdose of genesis??
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Quite unlikely Genesis leh... I usually use one drop of Genesis per litre --> Kiasu. So far my fishes still ok.

When you see your fishes gasping for air, there's somethng quite wrong with the water. Did you have a pH crash? Got buffer or not?
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:14 pm
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 6:15 pm)
Huh?
Nitrates?
What nitrates?
How to monitor???

Desireless;
Can re-advice?
Why the test kits are optional when buffering water? How do we know that the pH and ammonia are always in safe zone?

It seems to you that buffering is a standard process...
Can you advice the process as well? When shall we perform this?
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Yo Puppies, have a read on the Nitrogen Cycle here:
http://puffernet.tripod.com/nitrogencycle.html
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html

To put in simple terms, a cycled tank should be able to do this:

Ammonia (from fish) --> Nitrites --> Nitrates

The arrows represent the work of the Beneficial Bacteria (BB). 1st arrow is the Nitrosomonas Bacteria that converts ammonia to Nitrites. 2nd arrow is Nitrobacter Bacteria converting Nitrites to Nitrates. The end product of the Nitrogen cycle is always Nitrates.
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:22 pm
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:08 pm)
Dear All;
My tank...
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I thot you said you dont have any gravels?
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:25 pm
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Oh god;
Did i misunderstand?
Isnt gravels = sand?

Mine's pebbles. Large ones.
I will always remove all during water change knowing the consequences...

I am now reading the nitrates... nitrites... blah blah blah....

Hard to comprehend lah.... how?



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I thot you said you dont have any gravels?
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post Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:41 pm
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:46 pm)
Hi experts;
Just done something to my tank and fishes.
Got the below item:

Looks like small bits of charcoal. But however, not active charcoal. Stated at the box <<Ammonia --> 0>> Is this all that i need to do to remove Ammonia? 0 Ammonia = everything ok? So simple?

Do i need anything to stabilise pH?
Sorry, please teach...
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Not so simple.I have not used this Ocean Free thing,but I think these are zeolites.A waste of money,actually.They will adsorb ammonia,but once their capacity is reached it will no longer function,and you have to re-charge them.Worse,if you add salt to your tank as advised by many LFS owners,the ammonia will be leached back out!
I have 5kg of good quality zeolites sitting in my store room,give away also nobody wants.

I think you should not try to rush things and anyhow listen and anyhow buy things,be patient and read and understand more.You will get confused taking advise from everywhere especially LFS owners.

For your present setup shown it is advisable that you:
remove the gravels

You MUST:
Reduce the no. of fish

All you need is:
1)anti chlorine/chloramine for use during water change
2)pH buffers eg baking soda
3)maybe some ceramic or sinster glass for cultivating beneficial bacteria(place them in the OHF)


That all.Do that first then slowly read thru the topics.You will understand later.


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Thanks.
for 1) Anti-Chrorine/ Anti Chromaine... think I ill get a bottle of Interpret ? (forgotten the number) I saw it in the shop just now. Hope thats ok...
for 2) Where to get baking soda? Provision shops? What must I tell them? How do they look like? and do the Baking Soda colors the Water? When must I use them?
for 3) Ceramics? You mean those cylindical white little tunnels? But I just bought the above,,, can i use this for a few months first? Or i should throw away this?




QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:41 pm)
Not so simple.I have not used this Ocean Free thing,but I think these are zeolites.A waste of money,actually.They will adsorb ammonia,but once their capacity is reached it will no longer function,and you have to re-charge them.Worse,if you add salt to your tank as advised by many LFS owners,the ammonia will be leached back out!
I have 5kg of good quality zeolites sitting in my store room,give away also nobody wants.

I think you should not try to rush things and anyhow listen and anyhow buy things,be patient and read and understand more.You will get confused taking advise from everywhere especially LFS owners.

For your present setup shown it is advisable that you:
remove the gravels

You MUST:
Reduce the no. of fish

All you need is:
1)anti chlorine/chloramine for use during water change
2)pH buffers  eg baking soda
3)maybe some ceramic or sinster glass for cultivating beneficial bacteria(place them in the OHF)
That all.Do that first then slowly read thru the topics.You will understand later.
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Oops,I forgot.
pH test pen.Monitor the pH levels for the first few weeks and once you get the hang of it and know the pH levels before and after water change you can do without it.

You stay in Woodlands,drop by I lend you mine.But pls return. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:46 pm)
Looks like small bits of charcoal. But however, not active charcoal. Stated at the box <<Ammonia --> 0>> Is this all that i need to do to remove Ammonia? 0 Ammonia = everything ok? So simple?

Do i need anything to stabilise pH?
Sorry, please teach...
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Nice puppy ... lfs love u deep deep. Spend more !

Please read and understand what u are about to commit before rushing out to spend.

The only thing u need to spend now is Time.
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I feel that I am so stupid...
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QUOTE(The Matrix @ Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:56 pm)
Nice puppy ... lfs love u deep deep. Spend more !

Please read and understand what u are about to commit before rushing out to spend.

The only thing u need to spend now is Time.
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