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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 5:17 pm
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One more thing...
Since water from tap is 7 to 8 pH... which is good,.,.
What causes it to fluctuates?
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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 5:56 pm
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QUOTE(desireless @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 3:46 pm)
It creates a "pH buffer" in your water... meaning it "locks your pH" so that the pH do not swing so easily
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Buffer is not Lock. It never locks. It only create a temporary capacity.

QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 4:10 pm)
My method is not a recommended one for most people,as you need lots of space to house the shells.
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cpiw, your method is a good recommendation but not many people can have the luxury of having large filtration compartment.
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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 5:58 pm
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 5:15 pm)
Ok, Thanks.
So I will be getting from Sembawang later... found their website and located their locations in singapore.

So when do I need to pour in the Baking Soda? Every day? Every water change?
or how frequent?

And wats the amount to put for a 3 feet tank?
Sorry... kindly teach...
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Can someone advice on the above?
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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 6:19 pm
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QUOTE(The Matrix @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 5:56 pm)
Buffer is not Lock. It never locks. It only create a temporary capacity.
cpiw, your method is a good recommendation but not many people can have the luxury of having large filtration compartment.
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Do you have to go through all these "word scruntinizing"?

The word "lock" is easy to understand. Especially for a newbie. You can throw in all the scary scientic terms for all you want and guess what strange ways some newbies will understand them as?
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 5:58 pm)
Can someone advice on the above?
Leaving office once i get the reply and OFF to sembawang~
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It is all in the "PH Buffer" thread:
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1561

I have a post on this:
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=24185

http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=24309
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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 6:40 pm
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Desireless;
Its so hard to understand...
It seems fatal to add BS to water.

You make it sound like its a big mistake to add BS to water...
wat dkh and degrees... ? BS have a temperature? and wat is dkh?
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 6:40 pm)
Desireless;
Its so hard to understand...
It seems fatal to add BS to water.

You make it sound like its a big mistake to add BS to water...
wat dkh and degrees... ? BS have a temperature? and wat is dkh?
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Desireless;
Had start to understand your first paragraph. Basically u were saying that low ph will have ammonium which is harmless. But when raised, the ammonium in old water will convert to ammonia that harms fish. So its best to do 100% during ph crashed to remove all ammonium leaving them no chance to convert to ammonia after water change. Do not change water partial after ph crash.

But 2nd paragraph...
BS is to maintain pH. How i know when is the best time to add BS to maintain that particular pH? And you mentioned hardness. that confused me...
How much to add is still a question...
really need kH tester?
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What is the correct kH for hardness?
Will it increase or will it decrease after adding BS?
If it increses, what if the original hardness of the water is already v high?
Same for vice versa....

Does this means that i need not test pH? testing the hardness will be enough to gauge how much to add?
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Hi Puppies,

I'm a newbie too, I was shock so much knowledge is involve in rearing goldfish.

My config is 2 feet fish tank with 6 med size oranda, OHF normal white filter material bought at LFS and surface skimmer because there is a layer of foam on top the water.

I equally confiuse with the ammonia, nitride, nitrates and PH. I'm trying to comprehend and digest what they mean.
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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 8:30 pm
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 6:40 pm)
Desireless;
Its so hard to understand...
It seems fatal to add BS to water.

You make it sound like its a big mistake to add BS to water...
wat dkh and degrees... ? BS have a temperature? and wat is dkh?
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It is not easy to understand... but it just take some effort to read and understand the "pH Buffer" thread.

Which part makes you think that it is a big mistake to add BS to water???? It is a REAL mistake NOT to add BS in yor aquarium water!

dKH is the degree Carbonate Hardness. You'll need to buy a tester to find out. Using 2 fingers will not. But there is no need to buy such tester since in my previous post, 1 Oxycure spoon (2g) will increase 20 litres of water (For Singaporean water only!) to 5 dkh (the ideal Carbonate Hardness degree for goldfish). Purpose of adding BS is to prevent pH swing. To put it simple, it locks the pH at the level (at the time you add the powder) for a longer time (than without adding BS).

Cpiw already answer to your query. The fresh water from your tap is usually at safe level. So there is no need to buy pH+ or pH- powder.

BS or SB are the same thing. BS = Baking Soda. SB = Sodium Bicarbonate. So you see some switching here and there but they mean the same thing. Just be careful not to get Baking Powder instead!
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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 8:32 pm
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QUOTE(Puppies @ Thu, 03 Mar 2005 6:57 pm)
What is the correct kH for hardness?
Will it increase or will it decrease after adding BS?
If it increses, what if the original hardness of the water is already v high?
Same for vice versa....

Does this means that i need not test pH? testing the hardness will be enough to gauge how much to add?
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Friend, have you been reading the pH Buffer thread that I referred you to earlier?

All the answers to your questions are right in that thread. Orignal KH in tap water is at most 1 degree KH. Sometimes it is zero.
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to put it in a lagi simpler way....

u live in SG and u know the ph from our tap water is between 7-8 which is suitable for goldfish....

2/3 teaspoon will raise 20l of water to 5 dkh which is good for goldfish keeping....
(i use 1 teaspoon.....easier to calculate) slightly higher dkh will do no harm.
so the idea is calculate the amount of water in your tank and add BS accordingly...
for eg. 2 ft tank = 50 litres (so add 2.5 teaspoon)

tats simple enough....right?? smile.gif
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post Thu, 03 Mar 2005 9:42 pm
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Hi all;
Thanks for your patience.
Have bought a pH tester kit and Baking soda... Just reached home...
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