Of Lifespan Or Live Spend? Options

[goldrush]

Hi guys

As promised, today I'll touch on the controversial topic on the matter of live and death of your beloved pal.
Ever wonder how long the lifespan of our goldfish friend or ever stop to ponder (behind the roving eyes of your spouse)over how we have spend our lives spending on them(keep on buying new ones to replace the old)
On a serious note if we were to ask ourselves how long have we kept our beloved fish .The answer is pretty obvious isn’t it.

For the record,as Desireless had pointed out,goldfish has the capability to last 20 odd years.But in reality perhaps in Singapore as cyberET had pointed we can hardly cross the 5 years mark!So what makes a goldfish last ? For me to last means without succumbing to prematured degeneration,sickness,old age and death.
Genetics aside(that dreadful repeated word)I’ll try to analyse with the presence of all bros here to find the elixir towards longevity of our friends.

My Observation

Cold water fish
Being born and created as a cold water organism,the goldfish lives in nature in the temperate region .So physiologically speaking the goldfish is more acclimatized to a temperate environment.Unlike experiencing the pleasure of four seasons,our environment provides a never ending web of activities without much rest and recuperation,so the fish literally burn out after assuming a shorten peak condition.From the highest PEAK to the lowest PIT in a relative short time!.Climate plays an all important role to fulfil the missing element of longevity.Our fish are simply not allowed to build on their reserves and hibernate but are force to acclimatize to the harsh environment at a relative tender age,growing at accelerated rate and assume maturity at a tender age(I notice my babies indulging sexual activities at this age already)

GENECTICS
Undisputedly genectics play an important influence on the lifespan of fishes.Being a mutated species,the goldfish are grostequely developed for human pleasure and not a survival, natural selective evolution.Being man made,it has to be highly dependent on our constant care and attention.The more mutated it is the far more vulnerable to early demise because in genetic sense it simply cannot survive in the wild!Now these are genectics factors and cannot be influenced by external intervention.As many different cells and tissues become tired the fish begin to fade and under such circumstances we can only watch and see them grow “old” gracefully.We are yet to find an elixir to retard this aging so until then we can only watch as it dwindles in its twilight years or even months.So the only goldfish that live for more couple of years are those actually resembling the wild crucian form but not the fancy varieties.

ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS

Irritants/Infection/Inconsideration
With limited facilities for proper growth and harnessing its potential,a host of irritant and infection can result in early demise of our fishes.So this something preventable and manageable.
Water Chemistry
Besides being an irritant,the chemistry of water may lead to early death should water parameters are neglected and are not properly monitored and deficiency retified.Needless to elaborate further


FOOD
Food is a means of substenance but also indirectly a health hazard .Far too often we try to pump our fish from young to achieve growth at a relative short time insensitive to its proper development as a result of imbalance high protein diet which may lead to liver and kidney ailments that inflict our fishes at a tender age.So feed with vigilant .Live and frozen food have their inherent risks but so too are the myriads of freeze dried and dried counterparts .A balance is essential but again it is easier said than done!

Conclusion
It’s very rare for the wild type of goldfish farmed closest to its natural environment to perish at a relative young age(disregarding predators and natural disasters)While Genectics are beyond our control,the challenge remains for us to mimic as closely as possible to the natural environment which its ancestor originated .Such condition brings out not only the best of health ,color and growth but ensure longevity and survival as well.
Over here we are not blessed with Four seasons as in the temperate region.The only closest four seasons we ever have at the moment is the Four Seasons hotel. So time for you guys to CHECK IN to see if you will CHECK OUT with your goldfish with longevity and health…………………


Cheers



goldrush

[CyberET]

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in our local weather.. i doubt the goldfish can last 5 years..

[The Matrix]

Hmmmm give me an idea to write on my next controversial topic

Title should be: LIfespan or life spend
Sounds interesting?
Maybe should start a poll to honestly feedback some info of how long bros can keep their goldfish 1)alive even though with gross inadequacies
                            2)alive and still maintain good features and color
                           
Come to think of it some of us have kept for many years but how many of our fishes are still with us

Answer:  NONE (am I alone?)

Got to go now and let me sleep over and contemplate on my next topic to write

Cheers and Good nite
goldrush

hahahaha .... if u referring to how long i have been keeping goldfish and the very 1st one still with me, then i also a simple NO.

But the longest I ever kept was a 3 yrs ++ ryukin ... can't recall the exact months. Died last year.

A lot of dedication to keep old fish leh.

[desireless]

Although lifespan of goldfish can go up to 20 years, I have not seen any local hobbyist claiming he own a 10-yr-old goldfish.

This is why it is worth buying small fishes to groom. You spend hundreds or even thousands on a hugh fish but who knows how many more years you can keep it. Probably it'll just die in a few months' time and the money spent would not be justified.

[CyberET]

where got not justified?
the money spent on grooming is greater getting to that size, than buying one..

[desireless]

where got not justified?
the money spent on grooming is greater getting to that size, than buying one..

The 3K goldfish at R***BOW leh?

[The Matrix]

The 3K goldfish at R***BOW leh?

3K ? how about that 18K at R***BOW ?

[desireless]

3K ? how about that 18K at R***BOW ?

Oh ya... spend 18K just to keep it for 1-2 yrs... I would rather go get a very good motorbike or 2nd hand small car.

[CyberET]

The 3K goldfish at R***BOW leh?

... did anyone buy it?

[The Matrix]

3K ? how about that 18K at R***BOW ?

erh ....
how come must censor ? nothing wrong leh ?

Aquatics become A***tics, C328 become C**8, Mainland become M***L*** ?? funny leh ... cannot understand.

This post has been edited by desireless: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 9:54 pm

[The Matrix]

... did anyone buy it?

Still there lah. Who want to spend 18K and no 4D number appear on the body ...

The latest fishlove magazine got the pic ...

[desireless]

erh ....
how come rain bow must censor ? nothing wrong leh ?

Aquatics become A***tics, C328 become C**8, Mainland become M***L*** ?? funny leh ... cannot understand.

Coz now I saying something not so good about this LFS mah...

Later like AB****TE RANCHU from Thailand threatened to sue you, how??

Now censor the word, so that if later they say "You mean to say I am cheating customer by charging 18K for a fish?", you can say "I was referring to my uncle. He also got fish sell at 18K rupiah"

[CP]

Ever wonder how long the lifespan of our goldfish............
.

I've never had the oppurtunity to find out yet.

First of all,I'm in this hobby for only slightly more than 2 years and I tend to change fish (like our garment's upgrading programme) rather frequently.

The longest in my current collection are the pair of ryukins which I have had for the past 15 months now.They were already adults when I purchased them,by my estimation at least 1 year old when I got them cause already 7" when bought.So abt 2 and a half years old.The colouration on one of them is already deteriorating and I have just sent them to outdoor pond to hopefully improve the colouration.

It is widely accepted that the average lifespan of goldfish in our region is about 5 years max,but I believe that over here their "peak performance" will be over in two years.

I was informed that the Oyas competing in the recently concluded comp. are only second years fishes.I wonder if they can maintain the same vigour in their third years,in our climate.

[goldrush]

I've never had the oppurtunity to find out yet.

First of all,I'm in this hobby for only slightly more than 2 years and I tend to change fish (like our garment's upgrading programme) rather frequently.

The longest in my current collection are the pair of ryukins which I have had for the past 15 months now.They were already adults when I purchased them,by my estimation at least 1 year old when I got them cause already 7" when bought.So abt 2 and a half years old.The colouration on one of them is already deteriorating and I have just sent them to outdoor pond to hopefully improve the colouration.

It is widely accepted that the average lifespan of goldfish in our region is about 5 years max,but I believe that over here their "peak performance" will be over in two years.

I was informed that the Oyas competing in the recently concluded comp. are only second years fishes.I wonder if they can maintain the same vigour in their third years,in our climate.

Yo cpiw

Are you consider a lao jiau or sin jiao

You post like ah lao but own like sin sin leh
Pls no offence intended

goldrush

[CP]

Yo cpiw

Are you consider a lao jiau or sin jiao

You post like ah lao but own like sin sin leh
Pls no offence intended

goldrush

Sin jiao sin jiao.
But very willing to learn and ask around,read up,so in a way can post like a lao jiao.
Got friend's guidance and RG Forum to do things right first time and avoided many begineer's pitfalls.
Anyway,whether 2 years or 20 years,sin jiao,lao jiao or gu gu jiao,we are always learning,right?

Regards
cpiw