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post Tue, 09 Dec 2003 9:07 pm
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QUOTE(CyberET @ Tue 09 Dec 2003 05:24 PM)
oh, hehe.. pai sei, my mistake, i mistook gallon as litres tongue.gif

so u've restarted again today?

yes restarted it this morning. PL lights have been on for around 10 hrs. water started to have lot of particles flowing around and becoming cloudy. going to on the PL lights until tommorow morning and see how.
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post Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:00 pm
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QUOTE(sheringam @ Tue 09 Dec 2003 09:07 PM)
yes restarted it this morning. PL lights have been on for around 10 hrs. water started to have lot of particles flowing around and becoming cloudy. going to on the PL lights until tommorow morning and see how.

all matters need rest and that's where the growing/multiplying period. Give those poor organisms a chance to 'digest' their food.
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post Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:55 pm
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12hrs should be enough liaoz..
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post Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:45 pm
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Just wondering....

Wouldn't it be better for the fish to cultivate green water in a seperate container. Keep your fish healthy in a another cycled container. Then when the green water is ready add to the fish. This way the fish do not get tortured with ammonia and nitrite poisoning.

I don't have as much experience with green water as all of you, so I am just asking for theory.

My green water grows so quickly here in the summer, I do not have a problem cultivating in seperate tub.


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because your green is achieved via natural sunlight smile.gif
the problem now is the PL
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post Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:15 am
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Tue 09 Dec 2003 11:45 PM)
Wouldn't it be better for the fish to cultivate green water in a seperate container.  Keep your fish healthy in a another cycled container.  Then when the green water is ready add to the fish.  This way the fish do not get tortured with ammonia and nitrite poisoning.

Oh yes, it's definitely better to cultivate virgin green water using cheap, but healthy, fish. There was a bro who missed my point on the healthy part but put in cheap feeder fishes instead. He wrote and asked me why the green water looks brown. I explained and told him to throw away that tub and start again.
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post Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:53 am
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What is PL? blush.gif

Also, not to start an argument, but why do you need fish to start green water? I don't use fish to start green water. I just use water, light, and some fish food for fertilizer. Voila! Green water. Of course as stated earlier I only grow green water in summer with sun.
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Wed 10 Dec 2003 11:53 AM)
What is PL? blush.gif

Also, not to start an argument, but why do you need fish to start green water?  I don't use fish to start green water.  I just use water, light, and some fish food for fertilizer.  Voila!  Green water.  Of course as stated earlier I only grow green water in summer with sun.

PL is Compact Fluorescent Lamps. It comes in many different shape and sizes. Some even have the electronic ballast build-in. Here's a Link to Osram's product page to give you a better idea. I sometimes wonder why the short-hand isn't CFL which makes more sense that "PL".

I've not tried brewing green water using fish food before. How many days does it take to spot the first hint of green using this method?
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Wed 10 Dec 2003 11:53 AM)
What is PL? blush.gif

Also, not to start an argument, but why do you need fish to start green water?  I don't use fish to start green water.  I just use water, light, and some fish food for fertilizer.  Voila!  Green water.  Of course as stated earlier I only grow green water in summer with sun.

kingyo, your method is not wrong either. In some part of this goldfish world, there is such a method of using food as the initiator of green water for some special purposes.
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I've not tried brewing green water using fish food before. How many days does it take to spot the first hint of green using this method?


Well, since I live in Seattle, where the sun comes out only once in a while. It could take up to a week. But this past summer we didn't have much rain, so lot's of sunshine made my tubs to start turning green in about 3 days. In the summer, the sun comes up at about 6:00 am and goes down at about 9:00 pm. I put my tubs in direct sunlight as much as possible.

I can even grow the green water indoors in the summer in my fish room with addition of some flourescent lights to help.

If you have lot's of phosphates in the water it will hep to grow the suspended algae very quickly.
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Wed 10 Dec 2003 12:53 PM)
I can even grow the green water indoors in the summer in my fish room with addition of some flourescent lights to help.

If you have lot's of phosphates in the water it will hep to grow the suspended algae very quickly.

May I know what kind of fish food you use to fertilize the tub to cultivate green water? Live/frozen bloodworms or dry pellets? I know there are some bros who use defrosted shrimps to kick start the ammonia level but I would be more comfortable using bloodworms.

How long does the green water maintain its intensity under an indoor florescence lamp?
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I use crushed seafood flakes. I like it because it "melts" in the water. I don't want to waste good frozen food.


The green water gets really thick for me with floresent lights, but it is helped by sunlight because I have windows in my ceiling in my fish room. I could not see my fish unless they swam up close to the glass. I cannot be certain if the lights alone would grow adequate green water indoors. Plus, I had to remove the green water because it started to smell too. I don't like the smell for indoors.

Sorry, it was my first indoor green water experience and I didn't document what I did step by step for this tank.

As you recall, I had a death of one of my ranchu in the green water. So I stopped doing that indoors. I will keep my green water for summer "spa" only outdoors where there is more space for the fish.


I still however, grow green algae on the glass of my tanks, except the front glass. I believe this is also better for the fish. It really helps maintain their health and keep the trates low.
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I was wondering this same thing. Would only amonia work to cultivate green water or does the food work better? Great, this makes me want to get a giant tub for green water! Kingyoo what king of light source did you use besides sunlight?
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actually, the problem most of us singaporean faced is .. we do not have access to Direct sunlight .. its free-of-charge, but we do not have direct access.. hehe.. tats why bros like HB come out with ways and means to generate matured green water. the procedures they come out with as benefited us.. like me .. now i am trying out..
i think its more of a light problem to a ammonia problem shiok.gif

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Kingyoo what king of light source did you use besides sunlight?


I use a full specrum flor. light in the hood of the tank cover. A single tube.

Now because of the winter cloud cover, it is not bright enough for green water.
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