The effect of swimming space on growth Options

[HappyBuddha]

... if u dun have spare tanks, try partitioning lor.

I sometimes wonder what is the effect on a goldfish if it is house in a large tub but kept inside a small floating basket such that it can't move much yet the water quality is always excellent.

Would it continue to grow although it doesn't get to "exercise", or would only certain parts of the goldfish, such as the tails only, or the body only, continue to get larger and go out of proportion?

Anyone knows?

[CyberET]

obese fish, fat but not stout, hehehe...
like your pui pui ranchus

[jhansolo]

I remember in my first Live meet, Alvin gave us a quiz. Two fish in the same pond, one free to swim in the pond another in a floating basket which will grow bigger. The answer is the growth is the same.

[HappyBuddha]

I remember in my first Live meet, Alvin gave us a quiz.  Two fish in the same pond, one free to swim in the pond another in a floating basket which will grow bigger.  The answer is the growth is the same.

Damn.

I was hoping it could somehow make the fish's tails different... maybe for a butterfly tails becomes stronger since it needed to work less hard but free to develope nicely.

Oh well, I guess that's why no body keeps their goldfish in a partitioned tank.

[The Matrix]

I was hoping it could somehow make the fish's tails different... maybe for a butterfly tails becomes stronger since it needed to work less hard but free to develope nicely. 

try harder ....

[HappyBuddha]

surgically implant an aluminium stick to stretch and press down the tail joints.... can?

[Seacucumber]

use Gatsby wax??

[LASERGUY]

Use Tongkah Ali ???

[nobnoba]

I remember in my first Live meet, Alvin gave us a quiz.  Two fish in the same pond, one free to swim in the pond another in a floating basket which will grow bigger.  The answer is the growth is the same.

If u say that the growth is the same, then SPACE is not a factor in the growth of a goldfish??? keep it in a 20 gallon tank with excellent water parameters and the fish will have the same size as the fish living in a big pond?

personally, i doubt that statement.

[mountain]

If u say that the growth is the same, then SPACE is not a factor in the growth of a goldfish??? keep it in a 20 gallon tank with excellent water parameters and the fish will have the same size as the fish living in a big pond?

personally, i doubt that statement.

hmm .. think u got the equation slightly wrong, the point of the quiz is the growth RATIO between the 2 fish, not how much it can grow

[jhansolo]

keep it in a 20 gallon tank with excellent water parameters and the fish will have the same size as the fish living in a big pond?

personally, i doubt that statement.

Please read what I wrote again, I think I did mention a pond, how did 20 gallon comes in:P . Anyway to make it clearer, it is a big pond, it is big enought to house a floating basket and the ratio difference is big. Just to be even clearer let's say a 12 feet by 12 feet by 4 feet deep pond and the floating basket of 2ft cube.

[The Matrix]

If u say that the growth is the same, then SPACE is not a factor in the growth of a goldfish??? keep it in a 20 gallon tank with excellent water parameters and the fish will have the same size as the fish living in a big pond?

personally, i doubt that statement.

Ponder ponder ponder ..... HB favorite ...

If you have a part of the ocean, net up the place to hold your tuna. Will the tuna in the enclosed environment grow slower than those freely swimming in the ocean ? We will have to make quite a number of assumptions. So let say everything else is the same. You make the choice ...

If you keep 1 fish in a 20gal and another in 100gal, providing the same amount of food, same water change pattern, will that grow be the same ? Same again, let all other assumption be the same.

If you have an overflow system on 2 tier tanks. Top tank overflow to bottom and bottom tank pump back up to top. And you have another separate tank. All 3 tanks same capacity. If you put 1 fish in the top tank, and 1 fish in the separate tank, how would the growth be ? Will there be any diff if all 3 tanks are occupied by a fish ?

[top_view_ranchu]

I sometimes wonder what is the effect on a goldfish if it is house in a large tub but kept inside a small floating basket such that it can't move much yet the water quality is always excellent.

Would it continue to grow although it doesn't get to "exercise", or would only certain parts of the goldfish, such as the tails only, or the body only, continue to get larger and go out of proportion?

Anyone knows?

I'll not give myself that headache. Just get another tub!
Definitely fishes will grow to your expectation.
But wife's face might grow black. Can tell by mine!!!

[nobnoba]

Please read what I wrote again, I think I did mention a pond, how did 20 gallon comes in:P .  Anyway to make it clearer, it is a big pond, it is big enought to house a floating basket and the ratio difference is big.  Just to be even clearer let's say a 12 feet by 12 feet by 4 feet deep pond and the floating basket of 2ft cube.

can we discuss this further. sorry, i dont mean to be stubborn, but actually trying to learn something here.

yes han solo, i understand u mention the pond. about the 20 gallon tank, i was reffering to the situation with the fish in the floating basket.

In the floating basket (assuming the basket floats still), the goldfish is limited in its swimming space, true? so doesnt it the same as a fish in a (lets say) 20 gallon tank? Therefore can we convincingly conclude that the fish in a 20 gallon tank and a fish in a pond, have the same growth? Assuming all else is the same, regarding the water parameter, only SPACE is the variable.

Mountain, what do you mean by same growth RATIO? if 2 inch fish grows to 4 inch in a pond, and a 2 inch fish grows to 4 inch in a tank, does it satisfy your statement, same growth ratio?

[Seacucumber]

can we discuss this further. sorry, i dont mean to be stubborn, but actually trying to learn something here.

yes han solo, i understand u mention the pond. about the 20 gallon tank, i was reffering to the situation with the fish in the floating basket.

In the floating basket (assuming the basket floats still), the goldfish is limited in its swimming space, true? so doesnt it the same as a fish in a (lets say) 20 gallon tank? Therefore can we convincingly conclude that the fish in a 20 gallon tank and a fish in a pond, have the same growth? Assuming all else is the same, regarding the water parameter, only SPACE is the variable.

Mountain, what do you mean by same growth RATIO? if 2 inch fish grows to 4 inch in a pond, and a 2 inch fish grows to 4 inch in a tank, does it satisfy your statement, same growth ratio?

hehehhe.....you're wrong...


to put it in a simpler way....
why is it that fishes reared in KELONG grow so fast??

its actually not its swimming space but the volume of water in its environment....
if you float a 1 ft basket in a 10 x 10 ft pond, the fish inside the basket will have the same growth rate as the free swimming ones......

BUT will outgrow another fish kept in a 1 ft tank.....